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another question for J. Schweibert

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luther

07-30-2004 07:48:57




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We use our 1850 for a loader tractor. The steering was getting stiff and hard to turn I was going to check preassure but before I could get it back too the shop a line blew under the dash just above the coupling chain. We had to put oil in it and use it to finish up but it steered like a car while the line leaked. It leaked only when you turned the steering wheel. It seems to be one of the lines that runs up along the frame to the front steering box. My question is, is this a return line and do I have something stuck on the return that made it steer so hard? Before it broke we couldn't steer it at all unless the tractor was moving (loaded or unloaded), it was alot better after the line broke. Thanks so much for any help!

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Mike B

08-02-2004 05:59:03




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 Re: another question for J. Schweibert in reply to luther, 07-30-2004 07:48:57  
Just a suggestion as I don't know the specifics for your machine. Could it be that somewhere along the way, one of the lines got crossed? I've seen it happen where there are two power assist pistons, if the lines are switched on one they work against each other. In your case, the loss of pressure on one side making it easier to steer may have removed the opposing resistance.

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J. Schwiebert

07-30-2004 18:20:00




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 Re: another question for J. Schweibert in reply to luther, 07-30-2004 07:48:57  
Luther you may be lucky, Not all 1850's are alike so I need some more details. The two lines going to the steering cylinder and the lines comming and going to the oil cooler are also along the frame. The first think I can think of was one of thelines kinked? This could have resticted the flow on both sides of the kink. I have seen it in the past. Now the bad news I am leaving on vacation at 4:30 A. M. and will not be back untill probably next Friday. Check it out and let me know.

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luther

07-30-2004 19:14:13




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 Re: another question for J. Schweibert in reply to J. Schwiebert, 07-30-2004 18:20:00  
hey J. it was the line that ran to the left side of the steering box up front, had a hole worn through wear it bent to meet a fitting under the dash above the coupling chain. Patched it and put that bear back in there had the same results she steered hard as usual unless your moving. It clicks in the valve on the left side of the hydraulic housing where I guess the feed hose goes too? Where does oil return to the resevor? If you don't read this before you go that's o.k. we're getting close to being done hopefully I can get by with it for a week or so. Thanks!!!

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Larry from MD

08-01-2004 08:55:34




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 Re: another question for J. Schweibert in reply to luther, 07-30-2004 19:14:13  
Most of the time not much oil returns from the steering,so little back preasure is made in the return if it is blocked.When you turn alot of oil goes through the return.any back preasur made subtracts from the preasure use to turn the front cylinder.so make sure your return is completely open.Its the line that goes in near your left heel and under the thin metal platform.Its often covered over with dirt.The other end goes to the steering valve.

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luther

08-01-2004 19:04:01




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 Re: another question for J. Schweibert in reply to Larry from MD, 08-01-2004 08:55:34  
Is this just an open line or does it have any kind of valve to control flow? I'll look in some of my shop manuals to see, also. Thanks for helping me out!



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Larry from MD

08-02-2004 05:14:12




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 Re: another question for J. Schweibert in reply to luther, 08-01-2004 19:04:01  
Its just an open pipe.They often get smashed or kinked.I have seen one case where one rusted through and was repaired by braizsing.So much brass got inside the pipe that it blocked it.



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