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Super 99 vs Super 88 engine

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scottf

07-26-2004 12:10:17




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Can anybody tell me what the difference between a Super 99 six cylinder engine and a Super 88 six cylinder is? They appear to be the same dimensions from the outside. Intake and exhaust manifolds seem to be identical. I know the bore is a bit more on the Super 99 engine. The Super 99 engine has a cover plate the length of the engine bolted to one side and the Super 88 engine does not.




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Russ

07-27-2004 18:13:46




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 Re: Super 99 vs Super 88 engine in reply to scottf, 07-26-2004 12:10:17  
Oliver Super 99Gas; Our neighbors in Upper Michigan still have one of these. What a power house for its day. It done a ton of work in its day in the field, in the woods and around the farm. Anyone who still has one of these is to be admired and envied.



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Lynn

07-26-2004 15:28:02




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 Re: Super 99 vs Super 88 engine in reply to scottf, 07-26-2004 12:10:17  
Super 99 is totally different head when it comes to port size. Same bolt pattern as 88. Block is totally different but it will bolt right into an 88. Crank and rods are different but will go into 88 block. Gear oil pump, versus vain oil pump. I could go on and on.



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J.Schwiebert

07-26-2004 16:20:27




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 Re: Re: Super 99 vs Super 88 engine in reply to Lynn, 07-26-2004 15:28:02  
I agree with you especially on the gas engine, bigger ports, valves, manifold, the whole thing. Then there were some 6 cylinder 99 gas engines with 88 diesel cranks. You need to have a little experience to know all these things.



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john canankamp

07-27-2004 05:35:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Super 99 vs Super 88 engine in reply to J.Schwiebert, 07-26-2004 16:20:27  
s-99 diesel -gas both 302 cu. in. s-88 diesel -gas both 265 cu. in

engines that is differnce.



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J. Schwiebert

07-26-2004 13:11:28




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 Re: Super 99 vs Super 88 engine in reply to scottf, 07-26-2004 12:10:17  
O. K. since you said the manifolds were identical are you comparing diesels? The Super 99 is a four inch bore dry sleeve engine. They are a 195 series Waukesha. Another engine that is comparable is the engine in a gas 1100 M-F. They are a 320 cubic inch engine, no sleeves, cast in block version there is also a 197 Waukesha which has 7 main bearings and was a modified 195 engine for some military applications. In fact I had a friend that wanted to find bearings for one and it had military standard spec crank & bearings, maybe it was because it was war surplus to start with.

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