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Oliver 1955 vs AC7040

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Mike Strong

06-30-2004 19:28:19




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Hi Guys. I would like to purchase a tractor around 100HP. I found a 1955 w 1800 hours, canopy, dual pto's and new tires for $5500. Does not have hydraul-shift(sp?). I am assuming it is an older model since it does not have that. I need to get back and write down the serial. Any one have an idea on the year?

AC7040 same price. 4000hrs 50% rubber.

Whats the best buy and why? I have a Oliver 1365 and love it!!

Thanks,
Mike

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Luther

07-01-2004 20:17:26




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 Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Mike Strong, 06-30-2004 19:28:19  
well,duh!!!!!



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Nate

07-01-2004 10:29:32




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 Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Mike Strong, 06-30-2004 19:28:19  
For what you want to use the tractor for, I would say go with the 1955. I like the Oliver 55 series. They are comfortably to run. Not having the over-under is a downer, but I still think it would be a better choice. It has less hours, and new rubber. Not too many of these tractors had ROPS and canopy also. The 310 Waukesha is a good engine when ran right. It is not a lugging motor. You don't want to mix the heard by bringing in the Allis. LOL

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Mike Strong

07-01-2004 09:00:09




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 Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Mike Strong, 06-30-2004 19:28:19  
Use would be general farming. Mostly haybailing 1/2 round 1/2 square) and tilling. We only have 100 acres. Its not my full time job but I wish it could be. The oliver and AC are what I have found in the 5-6k range that I want to spend. Based on the above any other suggestions? Models and why?

Thanks again,
Mike



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Sam M

07-01-2004 13:27:21




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 Re: Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Mike Strong, 07-01-2004 09:00:09  
Hard to tell you what to do . 100 acres is pretty good size to be tilling on a regular basis . Obviously the bigger the harrow etc the less time tilling and the bigger and stonger the tractor the bigger the harrow etc you can pull . I pull a 12 foot Athens harrow with my 1855 but I might till at most 15 to 20 acres in a year of mostly bottom land . Most of my planting ( usually done with the 1855 ) is no till in hay fields and pastures . My uncle used his AC to pull a International 6 ft by 4 ft round baler . The tractor was way overpowered for the baler and it was difficult to bale with because of the size and where the operator sits in the cab . If I was going to be using the tractor mainly for baling I would go with the 1955 . I used to use my 1855 to run a Vermeer 6 ft by 5 ft round baler and it was great ( but i had the three speed shifter which worked well going along windrows ) .

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Sam M

07-01-2004 07:26:08




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 Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Mike Strong, 06-30-2004 19:28:19  
I have an Oliver 1855 with a 1955 engine and my uncle has a AC 7030 or 7040 ( I cannot remember which ) . I have run both tractors a lot . You are talking two different tractors , like one post said apples and oranges . It all depends on what you are going to use the tractor for and how much horse power and wieght you need . If you are looking at horse power or weight for dollars then the AC 7040 is the choice especially with the cab since both tractors are the same price . But it is a larger tractor , less fuel efficent and based on my uncle's tractor harder to start in cold weather . I have seen him really have to put the ether to his tractor when the temp gets below 30 degrees . My 1855 , on the other hand , takes a little preheating and it cranks right up . THe AC to me rides a lot rougher than my 1855 . My uncle eventually had to put an air seat ( about $1000 total cost ) in his AC because the thing was just killing his back .

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Wrenchbender

07-01-2004 04:18:39




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 Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Mike Strong, 06-30-2004 19:28:19  
You didn't state what you're going to use it for. I you only need a 100 hp tractor I would NOT buy the AC! The only advantage it has over a 1955 is horsepower. Yes it would have a cab with air-cond., but try getting in and out of that thing! The door does not open wide and once inside the pillars for the cab frame block your side view. You have to lean forward or back to see to the side. Fuel economy is the next issue. There is no comparison, the 1955 is very fuel efficent. And if you live in a cold climate be sure the block heater works and you have ether for the Allis. I also wouldn't say the 426 is a trouble free engine either. I'm somewhat biased toward Oliver, but I've been around Allises and know them also. I wonder why the 1955 does not have an O/U? That's kind of unusual! WB.

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Larry

07-04-2004 14:11:45




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 Re: Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Wrenchbender, 07-01-2004 04:18:39  
Go to the salvage yards once, and count the number of 310's compared to 426's laying with holes in the blocks?? And as far as driveline, the oliver is tough, but not nearly close to what the chalmers is. Like I said, we own both, but the best use I've seen for the old 310 is putting them in 88's!



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MikeO

07-01-2004 08:20:04




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 Re: Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Wrenchbender, 07-01-2004 04:18:39  
My 1955 does not have an over/under either. It seems to handle itself with sufficient power even without it.



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Larry

06-30-2004 20:49:57




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 Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Mike Strong, 06-30-2004 19:28:19  
Buy the 7040. we own a 1955 as well as a 7030 AC, (same as 7040), there just is no comparison, I like the old 1955, but compared to the AC, forget it! Just to start with you have a 426 in the AC compared to the not usually very well liked 310 waukesha. If you plan to really use this tractor, the 7040 engine, driveline, etc.. is all much better built! Plus if the 7040 has a cab, you get a nice tight cab with good heat and air conditioning!! But hey this is just my 2 cents. But if it were up to me between one or the other, hands down, go with the Allis!

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A.P.

07-01-2004 02:41:50




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 Re: Re: Oliver 1955 vs AC7040 in reply to Larry, 06-30-2004 20:49:57  
For the same price and in the same condition I would go with the AC, but you should know that you are comparing apples and oranges. The 1955 is a 108 horse tractor, the 7040 is a 140 (roughly - I don't have my referance book handy) horse tractor. It is substantially bigger and heavier. A better comparison would be to a 2255, 2150 or 2155 Oliver.

A.P.



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