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Smokey weak and weepy 1650

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Pete

05-17-2004 06:45:26




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I am having a problem with my 1650 diesel that I don't know enough about to diagnose. I put a new injector pump on it last summer and it ran well all season although it did start hard. I wasn't convinced that I had it timed perfectly and I have been trying to fine tune the timing which is hard to do because the tape is all but gone on the flywheel. I have the pump timed now so that it starts fairly easily. The problem is that it smokes like a stovepipe (you can tell if its running from a half a mile away) and I have noticed a slight loss of power. A hill that I used to climb in low 6 now takes high 5. Also there is some leaking from the exaust manifold on the #6 cylider. I tried cracking all the lines to the injectors to try and determine if any of the cylinders were not firing and each cracked line changed the sound of the running engine. Is this a timing problem, injector problem, compression problem or something else altogether.
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Pete

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Joe

05-17-2004 09:12:55




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 Re: Smokey weak and weepy 1650 in reply to Pete, 05-17-2004 06:45:26  
My 1755 diesel was the same way, you could almost see it before you could hear it! After getting some info from the guys on here I found 1 bad injector, 1 weak injector, and one that will last me for a couple more years..... After changin the bad 2 their's no smoke and the power's back to as if it were new.



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J. Schwiebert

05-17-2004 09:05:05




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 Re: Smokey weak and weepy 1650 in reply to Pete, 05-17-2004 06:45:26  
A couple of things. Is this a direct or indirect injection engine? If starting improved, you may be a little late with the timing. Try swaping the injector from number 6 cylinder to another cylinder and see if the wet deposit stays with the cylinder or the injector. Does the thermostat work, do you have ablock heater and What color is the smoke when you start and after it warms up.



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Pete

05-17-2004 11:20:43




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 Re: Re: Smokey weak and weepy 1650 in reply to J. Schwiebert, 05-17-2004 09:05:05  
I can never remember if it is direct or indirect injection. The injectors go straight into the head, there are big bolts (energy cells?)directly on the other side of the head. Which direction would I turn the pump to advance the timing? I am going to try swapping injectors. Is there anything I need to know before I remove them? The temperature guage is not conected and I am unsure if the thermostat is working. How would I be able to tell? The heater it has is one of those ones thats hooked into the hose that runs to the hydrapower cooler. The smoke is pretty much white all the time. Sorry about all of the questions.
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Pete

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J. Schwiebert

05-17-2004 13:22:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Smokey weak and weepy 1650 in reply to Pete, 05-17-2004 11:20:43  
You have the indirect injection or one one with a Lanova head. I have probably 15 questions for you, Send me an e-mail address and please do it this week, I am out of town on business next week. Thanks.



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