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scottf

05-11-2004 12:59:05

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For those that have always wanted to own a big Ollie there is a nice looking 1950-T for sale on Ebay. In 1967 the 1950-T was the biggest most powerful tractor Oliver made. The 1950-T was Oliver's first turbo charged tractor and the most fuel efficient tractor Oliver ever made. The Over \ Under Hydraul Shift was introduced on the 1950-T. The 1950-T is an excellent example of a big Ollie and would make fine collectors item.

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Bill

05-12-2004 06:07:00

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Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to scottf, 05-11-2004 12:59:05

What is a reasonable price for this machine. I would like very much to get into the 100+ horsepower class, and don't intend to use as an everyday tractor.

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Bill

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scottf

05-11-2004 21:20:59

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Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to scottf, 05-11-2004 12:59:05

No, I�m not selling the 1950-T on Ebay. I like mine way to much to sell it. I�m a big fan of the 1950-T. I guess I have one of the good ones. Sure there are a couple of Oliver�s that were bigger but nothing sweater than the a good running 310. It�s a shame that a few bad apples can spoil the barrel. Seems like there are a lot of guys that have a friend that knows a guy with bad story about the 310. If the 310 in that 1950-T was a bad one don�t you think it would have blown up now. If you find a good running 310 now chances are it either a good one or it�s been updated.

I just sold a 2255 with the 3150 Cat. The Cat was kind of rough and noisy and harder to start. I would like to give a 2150 a try though.

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j meyer

05-11-2004 17:23:11

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Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to scottf, 05-11-2004 12:59:05

There were bigger Olivers made. I personally would rather have a 2150 or a 2255 over a 1950T with that 310 in it. Is this your 1950T your trying to sell, cause your giving a heck of a sales pitch!!!

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scottf

05-11-2004 21:28:32

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Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to j meyer, 05-11-2004 17:23:11

Yes, there were a couple Oliver that were bigger but not in 1967. When the 1950-T came out new in 1967 it was the most powerful Oliver made. Top dog. Just as the Super 99 GM was the top dog in it�s day. The 1950-T will always be the most fuel efficient Oliver ever made.

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J. Schwiebert

05-12-2004 06:18:17

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Re: Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to scottf, 05-11-2004 21:28:32

I agree on a lot of what you said. However if you have an early 1950-T you will not have the over undershift. I think we sold about a half dozen of them before the over under became available, They are good on fuel. Send me an e-mail either here or on the HPOCA page. I have some questions for you on your T.

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scottf

05-12-2004 17:15:23

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to J. Schwiebert, 05-12-2004 06:18:17

I would be happy to send you an email but I can't find your email address here or on the HPOCA page. I tried. But, to be honest, based on your post it would appear you know more about the 4 digit tractors than I do so I don't know what I can tell you. It seems like sooner or later I will be the one asking you questions. If you want to tell me how to find your email address I will drop you a line if you like. I could even send a photo of my 1950-T.

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j meyer

05-11-2004 17:31:47

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Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to j meyer, 05-11-2004 17:23:11

Is that Allis Chalmers fenders on there??? It looks like the oil filter by-pass has been relocated...cant be many 1950T's with those press wheels or Cat 2 three-point. Hmm.....makes you wonder....buyer beware....atleast its at a reasonable price yet.

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Larry NE IL

05-11-2004 19:35:43

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Re: Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to j meyer, 05-11-2004 17:31:47

I had a 1950T back in the 70's. One of the best tractors I've owned. Never had a problem with the 310 either. It had fender tanks and pulled great...wish I still had it. Larry

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j meyer

05-11-2004 19:41:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to Larry NE IL, 05-11-2004 19:35:43

We had a 1950T and it blew up twice in one year. Kinda makes you not trust an engine in a hurry when that happens. One time it blew just driving down the road with no load. Not a good topic to bring up in our household:)

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Bob

05-11-2004 20:40:26

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to j meyer, 05-11-2004 19:41:04

That is the absolute worse thing you can do with one of those high rpm oliver engines is let them free-wheel down the road wide open with no load to regulate the governor. Wrist pins just werent strong enough to stand it.Those top 5-6 hundred rpms were useless anyways for anthing but road speed, because the engine didnt have the bottom end torque to utilize them.

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WFE

05-11-2004 20:15:55

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big Ollie alert in reply to j meyer, 05-11-2004 19:41:04

Ah, the love/hate relationship with the 310... Likely, all that one can safely say is that the 310 was one of the best performing engines ever in an Oliver (power, torque, fuel economy) with a reputation for being among the most finicky of engines when it comes to ensuring every detail of an overhaul is covered to prevent the head gasket failures, sleeve counterbore issues, and rod/crankshaft issues that plagued original versions. Still love mine for its ability to pummel any 4020 it meets; but I'd still love a 2255!

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