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More power for White 2-105

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Marc Smothers

04-30-2004 17:33:34




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I recently brought home a White 2-105 and am wondering what can be done to turn up the motor. Thank, marc




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RAB

05-01-2004 01:47:39




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 Re: More power for White 2-105 in reply to Marc Smothers, 04-30-2004 17:33:34  
Without knowing why, how much, it's present condition, it's present power ouitput, whether it is already turned up and your ability, it might be imprudent for anyone to encourage you to do this sort of thing, unless you are fully aware of the possible consequences of simply upping the power.
If you wanted a bigger horsepower tractor, why 'bring home' an under-powered one.
Biggest problem, as I see it, is you opening it up, selling it on and the new owner having a huge repair bill shortly.
Regards, RAB

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Marc Smothers

05-01-2004 06:02:44




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 Re: Re: More power for White 2-105 in reply to RAB, 05-01-2004 01:47:39  
I brought tractor home to use at fair in 11k lbs. class. I have put a 4bt Cummins in an 1850 that has now has output power of 143hp. Have repowered a number of ones with 5.9L. Trust me I am very capable. I have yet to sell anything that the new owner was not aware of. Unlike some stuff I have bought of late. I only wanted to know what could be done to the pump and how much to expect. The motor has 1400hrs on complete overhaul which I verified by taking off the pan.. Motor starts better than our 1 owner 2-105 with 1900 original hours. As for advice I guess I will talk to my fellow white and oliver friends.

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RAB

05-02-2004 00:30:06




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 Re: Re: Re: More power for White 2-105 in reply to Marc Smothers, 05-01-2004 06:02:44  
Marc,
I look at a lot of posts and think how I would do a simple test, like just jumping to a starter motor terminal to test the starter response (with just a cursory check on voltages first), or using the propane burner to get something started. If I sggest all these quick fixes to everybody who has a problem that might fit the meagre info given, I might expect some of them would finish with a disaster and me responsible for telling someone to do it that does not really understand what (or why) they are doing (it).
I certainly did not suggest you were incapable, only that the info given was insufficient. You might solicit more responses if you put the same information in your original post as you did above.
In this case, I am now fairly sure you are aware of the extra stresses imposed on the engine /transmission and have checked that it won't blow a gasket, or worse, soon after.
Maybe you should look again at your initial post and you would realise you should only get responses from those who either know the condition of the machine, those that actually know you, or those that would simply tell you how, and then deny any responsibility for any mishaps.
Have a nice day, RAB

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mak

05-02-2004 21:04:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: More power for White 2-105 in reply to RAB, 05-02-2004 00:30:06  
I have already tested this out he hard way. At 200hp our 1850 ring lands would break on the piston, clutch and torque held fine. Most people realize there are certain risks invloved, but are willing to take that chance. The most hp you will get out of the 2-105 is about 150 with the factory pump. 140 hp is standard from factory with many of the same perkins engines. Most of the stuff we run is far from factory hp ratings and for the most part they hold up quite well.
Enough Said!

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quebecfarmer

07-26-2006 18:00:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More power for White 2-105 in reply to mak, 05-02-2004 21:04:15  
what kind of pump did you replace the original one with? i have a 1969, 1850 and i still have the original pump on it and i added a turbo to it and it is putting out about 200hp. it is undetermined because by clutches spin in the pto.



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mak

05-01-2004 08:13:59




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 Re: Re: Re: More power for White 2-105 in reply to Marc Smothers, 05-01-2004 06:02:44  
If you pull off the timing window on the side of the pump, there are 2 twelve point head bolts. By loosening these bolt and turning the shaft on way or the other. One way will give you more fuel the other will decrease it. It depends upon the pump model to tell you which way to turn it. You will have to turn the engine over to get access to each bolt, one at a time. I would run over 160Hp or you might start to break ring lands on the pistons.

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Marc Smothers

05-01-2004 12:26:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: More power for White 2-105 in reply to mak, 05-01-2004 08:13:59  
Thank you. I did not intend to go over 140hp. I have not worked on CAV pumps much, mostly Robert Bosch and Roosamaster. Thank you again, Marc



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