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calcium leak,chapter 2

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Al m

04-22-2004 07:22:36




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well the tractor is jacked up wilth a piece of garden hose clamped to the stem.so far about 25 gal out and still drainig.Next hurdle is to break the bead and get that old tube out,then figure out how to get the calcium back in,the tractor has a loader and is useless with out weight.
Al




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Al m

04-22-2004 09:05:13




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 Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Al m, 04-22-2004 07:22:36  
Thanks for all the help guys.I have managed to drain a little better than 45 gal out. the tire is rusted on quite tight.I have forced dish soap into any area I could,now a sprinkle of rain has started so I will let it sit awhile.I believe this is going to work out just fine and appreciate all the commments.
Al



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Ryan

04-22-2004 08:53:21




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 Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Al m, 04-22-2004 07:22:36  
A neighbor hoisted his barrel of calcium into the barn and used the gravity method described below. You really need a flat "spoon" for breaking tires loose. A good 3-5 pound hammer and patience and you can break it loose yourself. Try to get the spoon started behend the rim by getting it to catch and then immediatly moving it vertical while hammering on it. You want to more or less follow the rim to start with until you get the bead moved back some then you can level the spoon out and hit more (this is all assuming it is still on the tractor. It is a shame that this is on your loader b/c the easiest way is to use a loader bucket and just catch the tire off the edge of the rim and push it down. Go around a couple of spots and/or use your hammer and spoon with the weight of the tractor on there and it works well. Really nothing to mounting and dismounting rears tires. I would argue it is harder to mount front tires.

Ryan

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old

04-22-2004 08:33:09




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 Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Al m, 04-22-2004 07:22:36  
Depending on what you have put the fluid in to, you could use the loader and raise it up and gravity flow the fluid back in to the tire. I have an old owners manaul for a JD-B that shows how to do it by putting a barrel up higher then the tire and just opening up a valve on the bottom of the barrel. As far as bead brakeing on the tire there are hammers made for that, takes a lot of work but it is also how the tire guy would do it, I know I work for one about 20 years ago.

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RockinB

04-22-2004 08:14:02




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 Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Al m, 04-22-2004 07:22:36  
Except for dire financial problems that would dictate a do it yourself repair,it seems to be penny wise and pound foolish to do this yourself.A commercial tire company has the proper equipment on a service truck to handle the whole job.



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Shep VA

04-22-2004 09:56:21




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 Re: Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to RockinB, 04-22-2004 08:14:02  
I 100% agree. I tried fixing a few rear tractor tires years ago and found it is waaayyy too much work for no more than you have to pay a service truck to do the work for you. And the service guys make it look so easy with the proper equipment. I would not even think of dismounting a rear tractor tire myself anymore.

Now I do trade duels around and adjust tire widths myself, but I am not taking a rear tractor tire off the rim anymore, way too much work for the price you can pay to have it done.

I just watched the tire guy work all day on the farm just putting two sets of rear tires on tractors with all the right equipment earlier this week. I imagine it would take me a week to accomplish the same thing, and I dont have time to mess with it.

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Myron KY

04-22-2004 08:08:00




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 Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Al m, 04-22-2004 07:22:36  
Here are a few more, do it yourself, tips on bead breaking and removal.
Please be careful whatever method you use.
Good luck.
Myron KY


Tip 1

A few more



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Rob Mo.

04-22-2004 10:57:28




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 Re: Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Myron KY, 04-22-2004 08:08:00  
Calcium is a very nasty chemical to mess with. It tears your rims up, makes the tire hard to handle, I could go on & on about cons against calcium. My friend, there is a new product on the market that working just as good & would tear the hell out of your rims. It is an anti-freeze base product that cantains methanol. No chemical gloves needed & it is enviromentally friendly. Thats my choice, but you do whatever makes you happy.

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Shep VA

04-22-2004 12:36:22




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 Re: Re: Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Rob Mo., 04-22-2004 10:57:28  
What is the weight difference per gallon on this new methanol vs the CaCl??? That is the big difference to me. If the methanol is only 8 lb/gal, then it is no better then putting antifreeze in the tires. The whole reason I put up with CaCl is because it is heavier. If I could find something as heavy at about the same cost that would not tear up the rims, I would be all for it. Corse they would probably not trade my CaCl for the new stuff :-(

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Rob Mo.

04-22-2004 19:38:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: calcium leak,chapter 2 in reply to Shep VA, 04-22-2004 12:36:22  
That I really can't answer. I looking at the future of the rims, they are expensive & not fun to repair. Why can't you just stack some wieghts on the back to make up for the loss? Exactly what kind of work is going to be done with this tractor?



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