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1650 diesel motor swap

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Stephen Scitern

06-07-1999 09:38:16




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Will a 310 Waukesha engine bolt up in place of my 283 Waukesha? Where is the best and cheapest place to get parts at?




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alberto martinez

05-01-2001 13:51:34




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 Re: 1650 diesel motor swap in reply to Stephen Scitern, 06-07-1999 09:38:16  
i have a wukesha mosel vrd-310s
i need know where i can ged part ot this machine
thanks



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Bill

06-09-1999 20:39:51




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 Re: 1650 diesel motor swap in reply to Stephen Scitern, 06-07-1999 09:38:16  
A 310 block will bolt up into a 1650 but there are a few things you have to do to do it. If it is a direct injection motor, has plastic tees on the injectors, it will be a little easier. The things you have to do to change it is to swap the back plate on the engine, change the flywheel off the 283, and the hub out of the flywheel for the PTO shaft. The flywheel and clutch does not fit in the 1650 bell housing. The flywheel only bolts up correctly if it is turned correctly. It can be half off. From there it fits fine.
We have at two 1650s that we have put the 310 block into with turbos. The one we pull hot farm classes and the other we use around the shop. They both are the 310 block similar to the 1955 with the large engine oil cooler on the side.

There is a common misconception that the 310 motor is junk. We have been rebuilding them for many years and even fixing ones with a hole in the side of them. You just have to know what you are doing.

So to answer your question, it can be done.

As far as rebild kits, it may be best to go to your local dealer and order it through them.

If you do not have a direct injection motor, brass tees on the injectors, replace the vanes and spring in the oil pump when you rebuild it.

If you have a direct injection engine, read the following. Do not grind your crank on the 283 or 310 any further than 0.020 on rods or mains. It does not hold up as well.

The main failure we have seen is a locked up wrist pin bushing and bearing. Have the rods magnifluxed when you rebush them and get the replacement bolts from the dealer also that has the 12 point head and washers that go underneath. These bolts hold up better. Replace the cam bearings while you are at it and check out the oil pump.

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Dies'l

06-07-1999 13:43:36




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 Re: 1650 diesel motor swap in reply to Stephen Scitern, 06-07-1999 09:38:16  
The 310 won't bolt up in a 1650. Also, in my opinion, the 283 is a better engine than the 310 anyway, if you don't mind a little less power. A 283 should outlast a 310 every time. You would be better off rebuilding the 283, I would think.

If it's a 310 you're after, maybe you should consider buying a late 1800, or a 1750. Much fewer headaches that way.



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Stephen Scitern

06-08-1999 09:26:14




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 Re: Re: 1650 diesel motor swap in reply to Dies'l, 06-07-1999 13:43:36  
Thanks for the info. You can hear things that are not true. The 283 dropped a valve on top of the piston. Do you know of any good places to get a complete rebuild kit?



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Dies'l

06-08-1999 14:53:16




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 Re: Re: Re: 1650 diesel motor swap in reply to Stephen Scitern, 06-08-1999 09:26:14  
Sorry, Stephen, I don't know of a good place to get rebuild kits, and I'm from Canada, anyway, so my sources would be here to avoid the hassle of duty, customs, and exchange.

Did you try UAP? We can get tractor parts at auto parts stores here in Ontario. It's worth a try. If they have the kits available, I guarantee you they'll blow the dealer away in price. Good luck.



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Stephen Scitern

06-08-1999 09:25:04




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 Re: Re: 1650 diesel motor swap in reply to Dies'l, 06-07-1999 13:43:36  
Thanks for the info. You can hear things that are not true. The 283 dropped a valve on top of the piston. Do you know of any good places to get a complete rebuild kit?



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