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Request for info on Cockshutt Hart-Parr 80

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Raymond Smart

03-16-2004 06:51:06




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Hi can anybody shed some light on the following for me. From what I can understand a Cockshutt 80 would be painted red with yellow wheels, my question therefore is would there be any reason for a 1938 Cockshutt Hart-Parr 80 with Cockshutt Hart-Parr on the casting above the radiator with it being one of the first thousand built to be painted green with red wheels, which is how Oliver 80 Standards are painted in the UK?. Was that how the early Cockshutt Hart-Parr's were painted? Regards,
Raymond Smart

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Barry-KC

03-17-2004 22:00:22




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 Re: Request for info on Cockshutt Hart-Parr 80 in reply to Raymond Smart, 03-16-2004 06:51:06  
Raymond
In the book "Cockshutt - the complete story" put out by the International Cockshutt Club there is, on page 11, the info you need.
"..... .The red with yellow 'Cockshutt paint job'was not depicted until a March 1940 brochure"

I hope someday to have the same model tractor that you are working on.
Good Luck.



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RAB

03-16-2004 08:40:10




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 Re: Request for info on Cockshutt Hart-Parr 80 in reply to Raymond Smart, 03-16-2004 06:51:06  
I wouldn't know for sure what is on the serial number plate - perhaps you can let us know. I am surprised if it doesn't say Oliver, but there we are. I thought that all Olivers dropped the Hart Parr name in '37 and so these were just plain Oliver or Cockshutt 80s by '38. Would be pleased to know what you find out from anywhere else. If you are in UK, a call to Alan Ward might be worth a try. Might find you have one with a changed top tank even.
Regards,RAB

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Raymond Smart

03-16-2004 08:56:56




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 Re: Re: Request for info on Cockshutt Hart-Parr 80 in reply to RAB, 03-16-2004 08:40:10  
Yes the serial plate does say "Cockshutt Hart-Parr 80 and that is made by Oliver Farm Equipment Company, Hart-Parr Works, Charles City, Iowa, U.S.A." The serial number being 804546, I know these Oliver tractors are badged as Cockshutt as Cockshutt themselves didn't make there own tractors until 1945. I also have read on here that the early Oliver 80 tractors had Oliver Hart-Parr on the top tank so I presumed the Cockshutt may have had the same, but it's the colour that intrigues me, do you have any idea if they were ever green?

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J. Schwiebert

03-16-2004 17:31:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Request for info on Cockshutt Hart-Par in reply to Raymond Smart, 03-16-2004 08:56:56  
There is a Cockshutt collector over in Indiana that also has a green one. I belong to both clubs and have found out the red paint was a Branfort thing and not a Charles City thing and not all got the red paint depending on several things. Where are you located?



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J. Schwiebert

03-16-2004 17:34:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Request for info on Cockshutt Hart in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-16-2004 17:31:23  
I looked at a late Oliver 70 Standard one time. The man told me crawl under the tractor and look at the paint. There was red paint under the green, so was it to be a Cockshutt and it did not become a Cockshutt? His dad who was decesed had purchased it new and it had not been repainted.



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