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Oliver 88s

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RockinB

02-09-2004 09:05:00




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Check out this add on Ebay for a good laugh.Item number:2595002866 This super yuppie is trying to baffle someone with BS or dazzle them with brilliance.15.000 for a pair 0f 88s.His ego must be as high as his price.LOL




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88Power

02-10-2004 17:57:55




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Gents,

Here's the scoop on these Olivers.

I received my degree in Ag Engineering at UW and was a student at the time these tractors were purchased. I should know since I did most of the restoration, painting, mechanical work, etc. These tractors were purchased in 1995 from separate auctions in Wisconsin and repainted that winter. Their purpose was to demonstrate tractor roll-over accidents. These demonstrations were to be performed at county fairs, Farm Progress, etc. At the time, two senior design teams were initiated to do the following: 1) design electronic controls to remotely operate the tractors and 2) design structures to protect the sheetmetal and engine on each tractor. The idea was to strap a 'dummy' into each tractor and then deliberately roll it over. Diesels were chosen to reduce the risk of fire during roll-over. In my opinion, fortunately the program lost funding and never got off the ground. I was never a proponent since there is nothing predictable about rolling a tractor in front of a crowd of people.

Anyway, when the tractors came to the UW, they obviously needed some work and a definite facelift. Since this was my first restoration project, I thought my team did a pretty nice job at painting these for the most part (we even pounded out the dings best we could----no offense taken). A high-end urethane paint was used and still looks okay after 9 years. The tractors did sit under a roof for their whole tenure at UW. Both are mechanically sound---the cam gear on the wide-front was replaced and that was it. Someone mentioned that the narrow front was an RC 88 with a Super frame---you get an A grade for your observation. The RC frame was replaced with a Super to offer better mounting for a protective structure.

I'm afraid the gentleman selling these is really talking up a storm. From his dialogue, it sounds like the UW bought these from Charles City back in the '50's and they never sat outside. What upsets me more is that he is trying to exploit what was a sale of these for a good cause. The UW Ag Engineering students are involved in a national 1/4 scale tractor design competition and the sale of these two tractors is helping to fund that program. This gentleman hasn't owned these for a month and he is trying to triple his money by bending the real story behind them. Anyway, sorry for being long-winded and feel free to ask more questions. By the way I restored another 88 (my puller) after these two and got out most of the dings. How do I post a pic? Thanks, Brian.

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j meyer

02-10-2004 18:31:55




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 Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to 88Power, 02-10-2004 17:57:55  
Brian- glad to hear the true story about these supposed one of a kind tractors. Gave alot of people a good laugh:)



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RockinB

02-10-2004 19:43:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to j meyer, 02-10-2004 18:31:55  
Thanks for the update. That initial project idea sounded scary.Only something an over educated professor or department head could dream up.



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frank dodson

02-10-2004 07:28:16




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
I sure wish I could get the name of the "professional" that painted those tractors!



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Nate

02-10-2004 05:22:49




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Looks like someone gave the guy good advice and he lowered the starting bid($10,000). He is going to have to drop a zero to get a bid on those. There is absolutely nothing special about these tractors. If you look closely they are pretty beat-up.



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Bob/Wis

02-09-2004 20:06:37




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Take a close look at the hood on the narrow front by the air cleaner. Not a good job hammering out them dings. Almost makes me want to drive up and take a look at them. I live abouot 50 miles from them. The narrow front could be a straight 88 with the the tub replaced due to cracking by the trans too.
Bob/wis



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Jim

02-09-2004 17:48:32




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Hi,saw your post.I am confused what does LOL mean at the end of your post?thanks



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earlschieb

02-09-2004 18:57:31




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 Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to Jim, 02-09-2004 17:48:32  
Lol means, Lots Of Laughs, as in this seller is just plumb crazy!



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Matt

02-09-2004 19:37:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to earlschieb, 02-09-2004 18:57:31  
no no no it means Laughing Out Loud...old people :)



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RockinB

02-09-2004 15:47:23




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
The things that got my attention were the faded fender and toll box,and the rusted and faded wheel weights off of these "spent all their lives sheltered in the Ag Engineering dept".That must have been due to exposure to flouresent light.That seller appears to be Mr.Ebay with that wordy add.Looks like he has been skinning some hobby crafters with his "exotic crotch walnut lumber" also.



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oliverman7788

02-09-2004 15:13:38




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
this guy cant be for real?



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Geoffrey in KS

02-09-2004 13:53:21




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Did it mention that they put gold dust in the tires for weight. Yep. That's why they took the wheel weights off the one. HA! Somebody hurry up and buy them, cause it says they need the room for more gold tractors.



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frank dodson

02-09-2004 10:14:14




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Maybe the truck and trailer are included! He got one thing correct in that he doesn't know much about tractors.



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old

02-09-2004 09:29:57




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Well maybe he had it gold plated before they where painted to stop any future rust



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Super 88

02-09-2004 09:26:13




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
Must be something in the air in those lumber warehouses....



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earlschieb

02-09-2004 09:13:06




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 Re: Oliver 88s in reply to RockinB, 02-09-2004 09:05:00  
That is what that I thought also, way over priced on them.



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ChadS

02-09-2004 17:10:38




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 Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to earlschieb, 02-09-2004 09:13:06  
HOLY COW!!! They are nice looking, but 15000????? What has he been smokin!! LOL Chad



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Kruser

02-09-2004 17:47:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to ChadS, 02-09-2004 17:10:38  
Chad,

See your name on pulling page all the time - Don't want to buy those Wisc tractors but would like info on "turning Up" a Oliver 88 stock for local pulls. Thanks!



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HEY KRUSER???

02-10-2004 10:38:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to Kruser, 02-09-2004 17:47:02  
Kruser, how much "tuning" would you like to do, I might have some parts you would be interested in, whats your email?????



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AL

02-09-2004 15:58:28




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 Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to earlschieb, 02-09-2004 09:13:06  
Here is the best part he only paid $2.201 for the super and 2.009 for the 88 Info off of UW site he bought it on.



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RockinB

02-09-2004 20:10:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to AL, 02-09-2004 15:58:28  
I figured as much when I found the add and read the BS.



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Tramway Guy

02-09-2004 18:21:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to AL, 02-09-2004 15:58:28  
No hydraulics on either one..and notice that the narrow front has dual oil filter. I thought all Supers had single filter?



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DuaneWKKC

02-10-2004 05:27:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to Tramway Guy, 02-09-2004 18:21:33  
you could get either oil filter setup I believe. Our 1955 S88 had dual filters but have seen them with single also? I have to agree, the NF one had wrong decals for a S88, it had decals for an 88, also looked like a little mismatch at tub and rear-end on the NF, maybe just photo. 1,800 to 2,200 ,might not be a bad price for each one but 10K for both? NOT me.



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Bill

02-09-2004 18:52:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to Tramway Guy, 02-09-2004 18:21:33  
I think the narrow front may be an 88 that someone removed the 88 tub and replaced it with a super 88 tub. Some farmers did this so they could use the new style cultivators and other attachments on the old fleetline tractors. Some did it if they broke the original tub and had to replace it.



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770 Puller

02-10-2004 12:36:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver 88s in reply to Bill, 02-09-2004 18:52:22  
Can I please smoke some of that!
He must think we smoke better stuff*********
The tractors looks okay,if they where priced at
$4500-$5000 woooo?oooo$$$$$$$$sh!~ !



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