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88 std. hyd. pump

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Zoltan

01-30-2004 16:41:35




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Gentlemen;

I have a 1951 88 standard which has no hydraulic pump. Will the pump fit from a 1957 88 super fit? The P.T.O. shaft is broken in the standard, what models interchange? The super 88 will wear a homemade backhoe with P.T.O. driven pumps, so I don't mind robbing the pump for the standard 88, which I wish to keep fairly original.

Thank you in advance for any and all assistance.

Truly

Zoltan

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Jim in michigan

02-08-2004 06:27:19




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 Re: 88 std. hyd. pump in reply to Zoltan, 01-30-2004 16:41:35  
I have a pump and some other parts that are from a 88, if you need parts let me know,, I will sell these at a reasonable price as they are of no use to me,,I can send pics of what I have ,, there is also a good radiator in the parts,email me if [email protected], just remove "no spam" from my address,Jim



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J. Schwiebert.

01-30-2004 17:47:15




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 Re: 88 std. hyd. pump in reply to Zoltan, 01-30-2004 16:41:35  
The pump from the super will fit the standard. PTO shafts from 88, Super 88 and the 880 Will interchange. I hope you have gearboxs to speed up your PTO driven pumps. 540 is not a very effecient speed.



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Zoltan Toth

01-30-2004 20:17:09




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 Re: Re: 88 std. hyd. pump in reply to J. Schwiebert., 01-30-2004 17:47:15  
Mr. Schwiebert

Thank you very much for your reply regarding the 88 P.T.O. pump. My concern was that the super series was upgraded to a larger size of shaft.

With regards to the P.T.O. driven pumps for the backhoe; yes, the speed will be increased to the required speed of what ever pumps I decide upon. Specifically, a fully enclosed, oilbath containing chain drives so that I can easily change the ratios to suit the speed requirements of the boom and stick. With the ratios perfected, I may build a gear box for it if the chains present a problem. I am well versed in "building a castle out of shi#" as my father used to say. Metal lathes, milling machine, welders and tools in general are wonderful things. Incidentaly, if you, or anyone else has a question regarding machine tools, I would be happy to try to answer any questions.

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Zoltan

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J. Schwiebert.

01-31-2004 05:32:55




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 Re: Re: Re: 88 std. hyd. pump in reply to Zoltan Toth, 01-30-2004 20:17:09  
Why not a tandem pump off the crank? don't forget all pumps are rated theoretical displacement and most of them are at 1200 RPM. Good luck



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Zoltan

01-31-2004 09:22:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 88 std. hyd. pump in reply to J. Schwiebert., 01-31-2004 05:32:55  
Mr. Schwiebert

The reason for powering the pumps with the P.T.o. are as follows: - backhoe will be removable (mounted "clip on style" similar to a 4500 series Ford) and the whole thing will be functional as a unit, the only thing required to use this hoe on another tractor would be the mount. - to be able to adjust pump speed to optomize boom speed (within limits of course) - although a tandem pump would be nice, I have several pumps on hand - this will be my first hoe construction, probably not my last, thinking of doing a small production run of them (once it works the way I want), and fully self contained units remove a lot of variables from the mounting equation. Mounts would be the only major changes, tractor to tractor. - also I wanted to use easily obtainable pumps for future service, specialty and expensive parts do not go into my designs if it can be avoided *** note to all reading along: if this sounds appealling to you, remember it is not built yet and I want to try to break it, then possibly (probably) redesign, one would not be available for a long time. Off topic now, do you know of any structural engineering web sites that may assist in designing a steel framed shop equipped with lean-to, jib cranes, straw bale infill, etc? Thank you very much for your input, if you type twice as fast as I do, it took a lot of your time.

Truly

Zoltan

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