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Oliver's w/ 310's?

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Wide Open

01-28-2004 12:32:12




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Looking at buying a 1755,1855, or 1955. I know these all have the 310's, and I know about their problems. I was just wondering what the do's and don'ts are on the 310. What caused them to throw rods? Is it best to keep the revs down? If I buy one will it be able to stand up to a reasonable amount of work such as a haybine, corn planter, or silo blower? What are some things I can add to help this engine?Probably looking at the 1855. Thanks.

-WO

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WFE

01-28-2004 18:54:29




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 Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to Wide Open, 01-28-2004 12:32:12  
To really research this topic, go to the archive section to the left side of the Oliver page and do a keyword search on 310s. There you will find all the discussions on this very topic, from the causes of failures to the rebuild procedures that make the 310s run strong. The 310s that are still in faithful service and/or those that have been properly rebuilt are great engines and can be used for all the farm chores you listed; in fact you'll find that they are very economical and have impressive torque for a small displacement engine.

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j meyer

01-28-2004 19:22:30




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 Re: Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to WFE, 01-28-2004 18:54:29  
Hi WFE good to see you on the board again. How's your new job treating you? If you get the chance drop me a line. j meyer in se minnesota



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E J

01-28-2004 13:40:21




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 Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to Wide Open, 01-28-2004 12:32:12  
I have these engines and have seen them come apart.Either the rod bolts came loose or the two peace rod piston pin bushings got wore and stressed the rod into breaking and maybe going out the side of the engine.If you where lucky it just cracked the block and welded back up.Oliver replaced some of their bad motors back when they where being built.But their up date was one piece rod bushings,12point heavier rod bolts and washers.Theirs 3 310 motors 1750 &1755 non turbo,1855 turbo and external oil cooled 1955turbo I think the 1950T had this also.I have did two up dates on mine 1855 and a 1855 with external cooling.I had both engines ballanced at a speed shop,pistons,rods,crank,flywheel&clutch pressure plate.Oliver service bulletin gb-26-111 explains all of this 2600rpm is max. engine rpm allowed.

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Luther

01-28-2004 17:38:12




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 Re: Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to E J, 01-28-2004 13:40:21  
EJ is right. I had a 1955 that had sleeve sealing prblems. We went ahead and redid the whole motor which wasn't cheap but the tractor worked great on everything. Handled really well and the three speed is very effective. I had some minor problems after the rebuild make sure you space your sleeves right above the deck, I blew a head gasket once a year till I figured this was what was wrong and got them spaced. Another problem I had was blowing o-rings in the remotes where they bolt on. Come to find out too much pressure going back threw the manifolds. An easy fix just test it and turn it down. Don't forget that balancing is a good idea, also. It sounds like EJ went down the same road as I did. Good luck.

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Kenny Grimm

01-28-2004 18:54:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to Luther , 01-28-2004 17:38:12  
We had one of the first 1855's built and although it had a lot of power, it blew up three times while we owned it. We traded it for one of the last new 1855's built. One of the first things we did was take off the oil pan and make it alot deeper. We also lengthened the pickup tube so the float sat further down in the oil. This increased the oil capacity from a 9 quart to a 19 quart oilpan. The tractor ran cooler, carried more oil pressure, and the oil naturally stayed cleaner a lot longer. I don't remember ever having the tractor on a dynomometer, but it would run right over our 2-110 White we had bought later, and our neighbors 856 and 1086. It smoked hard when pulled hard and never took any oil. It was in no doubt one of the best Olivers we ever owned. It had around 5,000 hours on it when we traded it and all we had ever done to it was put a clutch in it. I can still see the smile on my Dad's face when he would pull a five bottom sixteen inch plow deep in clay soil in 4th overdrive and the front wheels would dance along on top of the ground. I know 1855's and 1955's had a bad reputation, but there were a few good ones I guess-ours sure was.

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Allen H

01-29-2004 06:56:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to Kenny Grimm, 01-28-2004 18:54:12  
I agree 100% with Kenny. We have two 1855's and we added twice the oil capacity. 9 qts. of oil is not enough.



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ol George

01-29-2004 16:52:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to Allen H, 01-29-2004 06:56:39  
We put a 310 in my cousins 880 from a 1955 changed the fuel pump and put a bigger charger on. The tractor made 425 horses on the dyno at 5000 rpm ran this way for 7 years. He forgot to turn on the water and melted the number 4 wrist pin it disappeared and the broke piston came out the side. He still cries over this mistake.



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farmin ain't easy

09-10-2006 08:25:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver's w/ 310's? in reply to ol George, 01-29-2004 16:52:23  
THe 310 is an ok engine at best in my opinion. I think we made about the best fix of a 1955 with a 310 (late model 1974 i think) we took out the 310 and sold it for $800 since the thrown rod hadn't come out the side of the block yet then we bought a white 8600 combine for $500 with a freshly rebuilt 354 perkins and a 1850 parts tractor for $300 (because they had a 354 perkins and you need the frame and bell housing) when we got it all together and sold everyting we didn't need we had a 1955 with a fresh engine that makes 135 hp. at the flywheel for under $2,000 we have run it a few years now and love it

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