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Starting a 1650 in -12 C

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Paul

01-08-2004 04:57:55




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Here in Ontario its going down to -12 C and I have been having a lot of trouble starting my tractor in this weather. Its has a block heater, but I've been worried about using it b/c I've heard it "cooks" the rubber sealing rings.

Any suggestions as to how long, etc, I should leave the block heater in?

Thanks in advance, Paul




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Big Jim

01-09-2004 09:45:30




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 Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Paul, 01-08-2004 04:57:55  
If your tractor is inside (not heated but out of the wind) and you install a 1500 watt tank heater(not a block heater), it will start in below zero temps. You should only need to plug it in for about two hours.
Like one of the other posters said, a tank heater will not cook the seals, since it circulates and shuts off when reaching a too hot a temp.



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Paul

01-09-2004 20:16:48




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 Re: Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Big Jim, 01-09-2004 09:45:30  
Thanks, a tank heater sounds like the best idea- Any ideas where/ how I would hook this up - this is a new concept for me as I've always run gassers.
Thanks, Paul



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alberta Dave

01-09-2004 07:03:12




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 Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Paul, 01-08-2004 04:57:55  
My 1650 has an after market circulating style heater. It puts out 1500 watts and will generally heat the tractor engine well enough to start after two hours assuming the wind does not scrub all the heat away. Try covering the engine sides in to assist in heat retention and cover the rad front. Our tractor is now sadly worn and is difficult to start but when it was rebuilt it was used and started daily in Alberta from an unheated pole shed for over 14 years.

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Paul

01-09-2004 04:50:19




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 Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Paul, 01-08-2004 04:57:55  
Thanks for the feedback, I tried leaving it on for 2-3 hrs, (its a 1000 watt elbow heater) but it didn't seem to make any difference in the way it started. Is it ok to leave it in all night in real cold temps like these?

Thanks, Paul



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Canada Grant

01-08-2004 23:39:06




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 Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Paul, 01-08-2004 04:57:55  
Its -18 now at Port Elgin ontario! I have mine on a timer starts at 5am as if I need it for snow blowing at 6 30 its ready shuts off at 7 starts again at 5 pm for evening snow jobs. I got a heavy duty timer at home hardware also available at TSC [$25 ca]. No more trips to the shed an hour before starting up I can stay in bed!



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Paul

01-09-2004 04:53:36




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 Re: Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Canada Grant, 01-08-2004 23:39:06  
Canada Grant, do you have a block heater or a coolant heater?
Thanks, paul



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Canada Grant

01-09-2004 20:46:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Paul, 01-09-2004 04:53:36  
Recirculating 1500 watt heater plumbed from rear engine drain with hot side into thermostat housing . This is early style indirect type motor. [-24 tonight!]



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Bill

01-08-2004 20:25:19




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 Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Paul, 01-08-2004 04:57:55  
Here in Wisconsin, we usually use the heater that is in the bottom radiator cast elbow. Most guys will leave them plugged in overnight if they know they are going to use it the next day, otherwise, I would suggest using a block heater (uses the heater hoses) that runs from that lower elbow to where the petcock is in the block. If you use one that is 1000 watt, you can plug it in all the time. If you use a 1500 or 2000 watt, you may only need to plug it in a couple of hours before you use it.

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Shep

01-08-2004 05:22:54




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 Re: Starting a 1650 in -12 C in reply to Paul, 01-08-2004 04:57:55  
Paul,
I normally only use the block heater an hour or two before I am going to start the tractor, its not good to leave it plugged in all the time or over night like you said.

If you want to leave it plugged in all the time I would suggest you put a tank heater on the tractor. The tank heater circulates the coolent better and will cut on and off as to not get the water too hot.

Good luck

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