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Ron P

12-24-2003 21:33:09




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I believe I have something interesting, I love to snow ski, so I get Ski Magazine. Well while doing some serious reading one night, I found and article by Warren Miller the famous ski movie maker. In his article about the good old days of skiing, he tells about skiing in Aspen Colorado in deep powder. To his dismay,he heard a tractor on the slopes, " an Aspen employee was flatttening the Mogals (bumps) with a small Oliver tractor with wooden two by fours bolted to the treads". The tractor operator was ruining the mountain using a new technique called "grooming". Could it be possible a Oliver tractor was the first groomer ever used the year was 1956 ? Ski Magazine Jan 2004. Any one have any thoughts. Merry Christmas everyone.

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Frank Dodson

12-25-2003 15:35:36




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 Re: Oliver History in reply to Ron P, 12-24-2003 21:33:09  
There is a picture of an OC4-68 in Wendels book Oliver Hart-Parr on page 271. The caption reads that the tractor has 30 inch grousers for a 11/2 psi. This outfit was known as the Ski Slope Special.



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Kurt

12-25-2003 08:35:21




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 Re: Oliver History in reply to Ron P, 12-24-2003 21:33:09  
I have an HG 68 that I have pushed snow with and it works great. The story makes sense, I can drive up on the hard-pack even without the flotation boards.
Kurt



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Tramway Guy

12-25-2003 07:37:50




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 Re: Oliver History in reply to Ron P, 12-24-2003 21:33:09  
Yes, Clectracs were used on ski slopes to pull rollers that would pack powder snow to keep it from blowing away. I think OC-3's were used; just like you said - with planks bolted to the standard pads.



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CJDave

12-25-2003 03:52:53




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 Re: Oliver History in reply to Ron P, 12-24-2003 21:33:09  
The wide tread and generous clearances between the tracks and the tractor frame would be perfect to allow for the flotation timbers to bolt on. Thinking about it..... the little Cletrac would be a perfect snow tractor with the right pads on the tracks.



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J. Schwiebert

12-25-2003 08:32:23




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 Re: Re: Oliver History in reply to CJDave, 12-25-2003 03:52:53  
I was not asssociated with the Oliver line until 1960. However I do know they had a specially modified OC-4 that had wide METAL tracks and it was sold as a tractor for ski resorts both to groom and to use the PTO for other functions. They had one at a showing of new products at the Columbus branch in the early 1960's



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Canada Grant

12-25-2003 13:13:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver History in reply to J. Schwiebert, 12-25-2003 08:32:23  
We saw two of these wide tract OC4's at Bill Bectolts [sp] in california on the 2001 winter convention tour. In southern ontario I know of an Air-Track OC6 uses a light metal barred track driven by a lugged rear solid rubber tire with two air filled tires in front. In Wedals oliver book on page 271 it shows two OC 4 's equiped with these systems. OC6 in canada apparently left behind by Santa after particularly rough trip from north pole . Due to global warming he didn't require it any more!!!!!

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Ron P

12-26-2003 21:36:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver History in reply to Canada Grant, 12-25-2003 13:13:44  
Thanks for the info, I heard of a wide guage with wide tracks but never saw one or a picture of one. It seams strange to me that Oliver Corp didn't advertise those options more. I was at the Cleveland plant several times when we were picking up new OC-4's for sale but never did see some of the extras or maybe I just don't remember them.



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J. Schwiebert

12-27-2003 09:04:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver History in reply to Ron P, 12-26-2003 21:36:19  
The OC-4 I mentioned being in the Columbus Baranch showing would not have been built at the Cleveland plant It would have been a series B crawler built in Charles City. Send me an e-mail address. I have some questions for you.



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Ron Parry

12-27-2003 10:25:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver History in reply to J. Schwiebert, 12-27-2003 09:04:58  
J.SCHWIEBERT MY E-MAIL IS [email protected]



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