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70 and 88 puller questions

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bigfoot oliver

10-08-2003 18:37:17




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two main questions . The first just got a 70 as a gift and plan to pull it. wondering lots, like how light can i get it, what size tires to run, how hard is it to pull the hydralics,pto and belt pulley off, and last but not least how to get the most power out of it with out over hauling the motor. Next I allready pull a row crop 88 (not a Super)and it pulls really well. Wonder what i can do as far as a head to get more lug. thanks for any help you can give me.

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Brad

10-09-2003 14:48:43




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 Re: 70 and 88 puller questions in reply to bigfoot oliver, 10-08-2003 18:37:17  
You can get a 70 down to about 3500 without too much work, tires depends on track and weight class. Well, i've never seen one with hydraulics, so I assume you mean the power lift. the power lift comes off easy, though they made a factory cover to go in place of it, a piece of aluminum would be lighter. the pto comes right out, and a piece of aluminum would work well for that too. all you can easily remove on the belt pulley would be the pulley itself and the drive that attaches to the pulley. the gearbox supports the steering box and they did make a support for that with no gearbox, I have never actually seen one. You could make one without too much trouble. as for power, if it runs very smooth now the valves are probably in pretty good shape, but if not so a good healthy tune up, a good valve job, mill out the neck in your intake manifold where the carb bolts on, and with a little bit of screwing around, you can put a 88 carb on it.

As for the 88, if it dosen't have the big manifolds on it now, this would be a good time to do so, along with a good carb. as for the head itself, big valves help something called "low lift flow" this is when your valve is just starting to open. This helps torque considerably, while you don't want to go too big with the ports because of the cubic inch and rpm just a bowl blend and smooth up the ports should make a pretty noticeable difference.

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Mike

10-12-2003 11:26:25




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 Re: Re: 70 and 88 puller questions in reply to Brad, 10-09-2003 14:48:43  
Brad, can you recommend a valve size for the intake and exhaust and what carb is good? also, should you shave any off the head with an m-w kit and how much? thanks



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Brad

10-12-2003 19:06:00




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 Re: Re: Re: 70 and 88 puller questions in reply to Mike, 10-12-2003 11:26:25  
I don't have it in front of me, but if I remember right, the valve sizes were about 1.950 and 1.625. I'll doublecheck on that. I have valves that are the same stem diameter and length as stock. I'm not a real big fan of shaving alot off of heads, so maybe some one else will give some information on that. I also try to discourage anyone from using M&W high dome pistons. if you go back a few posts to "Question for Brad(or any other engine builder)" you can see why.

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Mike

10-13-2003 12:19:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 and 88 puller questions in reply to Brad, 10-12-2003 19:06:00  
what would it cost to go to the flat tops and are they alot more compression? thanks



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Brad

10-13-2003 15:56:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 and 88 puller questions in reply to Mike , 10-13-2003 12:19:00  
a flattop kit for that tractor sells for about $790 for new if I remember right, I could probably come with some pretty good used stuff for about $400 including the ring set. The valve sizes are 1.920 and 1.625. A complete set with keepers sells for $250. These valves are very,very well shaped to help improve airflow around the valve.



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Brad

10-13-2003 15:58:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 and 88 puller questions in reply to Brad, 10-13-2003 15:56:46  
BY the way, the compression difference is so little, you can't tell.



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Mike

10-14-2003 11:44:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 and 88 puller quest in reply to Brad, 10-13-2003 15:58:56  
I will contact you in a little while , thanks



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