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Ollie 1655

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Bret

09-10-2003 05:00:02

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Probably a silly question to ask here, but- local guy has a 1655 gas, new rear tires, no "over-under" trans, bad motor but with a rebuild kit included, no power steering. $1500.00. I'm looking for a replacement for my 850 Ford, a major and expensive disappointment. Something in the 50-70HP range, live PTO and with a 3 PT that'll lift a 1,000 lb round bale, which the freakin Ford won't do after a new pump and rebuild. Gas or deisel doesn't matter to me. The former owner, before this guy got it, is a real mutt who never took care of anything, and I guess I need to know if there's any way to tell if there's major damage to the tractor if it won't run. Does it seem worth it? Any info would be helpfull.

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Nate

09-12-2003 05:22:13

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Re: Ollie 1655 in reply to Bret, 09-10-2003 05:00:02

You could always take the option that Shep did, get rid of the gas guzzler and put in a Cummins. Then you would have one heck of a machine.

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Skinner

09-12-2003 03:28:55

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Re: Ollie 1655 in reply to Bret, 09-10-2003 05:00:02

Sorry guys, I disagree. For $1500 and it comes with a engine kit.... That's like giving aroun $900 for the tractor and the rest is new parts.

So what if you have $3000 in it when your done, if you plan to keep it you should have a good tractor when your done and you will know exactly what you have.

That's my opinion only, but where else can you get a tractor in that horsepower range with a rebuilt motor for that price?

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Big Jim

09-11-2003 08:04:21

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Re: Ollie 1655 in reply to Bret, 09-10-2003 05:00:02

That tractor is not worth $1,500. First of all, its a gas jobber, which limits its value as 1655 gas tractors are real thirsty. Second, you wouldn't want one that doesn't have over/under or power steering. Third, why doesn't the guy put the engine kit in it and then sell it? Sounds like he's just trying to dump a real headache on someone else.

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Ollie

09-11-2003 09:33:48

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Re: Re: Ollie 1655 in reply to Big Jim, 09-11-2003 08:04:21

Depends on where you live. Up here, gas tractors sell at a premium. You see, diesel costs as much or more than gas per gallon and it gets mightly cold here in the winter making diesels near impossible to start. Even the farmers who use diesels for field work have a gas tractor or two for the 5-6 month plow season.

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Sam M

09-10-2003 06:20:23

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Re: Ollie 1655 in reply to Bret, 09-10-2003 05:00:02

I agree with Ollie on this one - pass . About a year or so ago I priced a hydraulic pump from Agco for an Oliver 1555 ( basically same frame as the 1655 ) and the pump and parts for the pump were $1300 not counting gaskets , new fluid etc . A bad pump on this 1655 you are looking at ( which means no power steering or three point hitch ) could cost you some serious money ( doubling your investment in the tractor ) and with the tractor not running you will not be able to tell whether the pump is even good or not . A friend of mine bought a running 1650 diesel three or four years ago and only paid $1500 , although the tractor was in very rough condition .

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Ollie

09-10-2003 06:09:34

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Re: Ollie 1655 in reply to Bret, 09-10-2003 05:00:02

Not a silly question at all.

My suggestion is to pass on this one. The reason is that without a running engine you simply can't tell what else might be wrong with it. You might be buying a money pit.

See if you can find an well-maintained 1650 or 1655. If well maintained, they are essentially bulletproof. It is exactly the right tractor for your intended use. You get a live, independent PTO, live hydraulics, a 3 pt that will lift 2,500 lb bales all day long, and power steering. You are smart to want the "over/under hydraul shift". That gives you 18F and 6R speeds.

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