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Super 88 Diesel Engine

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Ben Ford

09-09-2003 08:32:19




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Just bought this tractor. Engine was recently overhauled. It's hard to start and I must use starting fluid. It doesn't seem very responsive when reving the engine, seems sluggish. I think it may be the timing but I'm a little nervous about adjusting it, even if I knew how. Are these diesels just hard to start and sluggish or do I need to change something? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!




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bigD

09-11-2003 20:57:54




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 Re: Super 88 Diesel Engine in reply to Ben Ford, 09-09-2003 08:32:19  
I too would agree that the pump timing is off. Please be advised also to go lightly on the starting fluid, too much can cause the cylinder head to crack thus lose power and a costly repair.



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Mike

09-10-2003 08:52:50




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 Re: Super 88 Diesel Engine in reply to Ben Ford, 09-09-2003 08:32:19  
I own a 1955 Super 77 Deisel and have the same situation as you when starting it.Mine takes a small shot of starting fluid to get it to take off, but runs strong after that.I have spoke to a deisel machanic and also an older gentleman in my area that grew up working on tractors, and still does.Both say they have found that old tractors(deisel engines) take a very small shot of starting fluid to start them. If you have to use a lot of starting fluid, there is something else wrong. Mine takes just a small amount, so they said not to worry about it.

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IanC

09-09-2003 17:39:25




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 Re: Super 88 Diesel Engine in reply to Ben Ford, 09-09-2003 08:32:19  
Pump timing is probably off. If you're going to work on your own machine one of the best investments you can make is a reprint of the Fleetline service manual. The I&T manuals assume too much. There is (was?) a version out there that was a reprint of Bob Tallmans dealership book that had all the service bulletins in it. I don't know if anyone is still offering it.



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brad

09-16-2003 09:50:44




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 Re: Re: Super 88 Diesel Engine in reply to IanC, 09-09-2003 17:39:25  
most likely the reason your 88 starts so hard is because of the injection pump. those tractors used the bosch pump and they were not very good when the were new. the best thing you could do is convert it to a roosa master and then if the rest of the engine is right you will think you have a completely different tractor. we have 3 770 tractors with tre roosa master pumps on them and if you preheat them for about a minute on a zero degree day when you hit the key you can't get you hand off of it before it starts. call me 1-800-808-9934 ask for brad

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