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770 low end knock?

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Gary

08-29-2003 05:13:05




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getting ready to analize my friends 770 gas. this tractor is all original. very much has been babied. through its life it has been running fine until about a week after trailering it to the tractor show it seemed to develop a low end knock.ok where do I start.taking off oil pan I guess.someone on the archives claims that the timing gears get to where they make that sound or the wrist pins! I do not know where to start! if overhauled theses kits do not have cam bearings or timing gear sets. and boy thet are pricey! ouch!thats through tisco. thanks

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Scott Green

08-30-2003 03:36:20




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 Re: 770 low end knock? in reply to Gary, 08-29-2003 05:13:05  
Gary , You may want to start out by changing the oil and filter. Use a good filter.Napa gold (#1700)is one of them. My "770" always ran very well , and still does. But,one day I started it up and it knocked very loud. Shut it down quick. Changed the oil and filter. It never happened again. That had to be about 5 years ago.



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gary

08-30-2003 05:47:16




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 Re: Re: 770 low end knock? in reply to Scott Green, 08-30-2003 03:36:20  
thanks fellas, gettin ready to give it a shot!!!



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Ollie

08-29-2003 06:18:21




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 Re: 770 low end knock? in reply to Gary, 08-29-2003 05:13:05  
I'd start by trying to diagnose the problem.

1) Use a mechanic's stethoscope to verify the origin of the noise. A dying water pump can sound like bearing knock, for example. Loose flywheel bolts can cause a similar sound.

2) Wrist pin noise is a "click-click" sound very noticeable at idle.

3) Worn timing gears usually don't "knock". They make a "grinding" noise.

4) If the noise is louder when you blip the throttle, that's piston slap caused by worn rings which then cause worn piston skirts.

5) Verify oil pressure with a known good gauge. If it's lower than spec, the bearings are suspect.

6) Main bearing noise is a very deep sounding hard metallic "thump" that is usually louder when the engine is first started. Rod bearing noise can be similar sound but remains the same volume regardless of rpm. Pull each plug wire in turn; if the knock goes away, that cylinder's rod bearings are shot. If the noise gets louder, it's piston slap.

In any case, I'd do a compression test and depending on the results a cylinder leakdown test as well. As long as you have to pull it apart you might as well fix everything that's wrong with it.

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