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Oliver 88 Tranny

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Nathan

08-25-2003 20:14:43




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I have been looking at an Oliver 88 RowCrop tractor that has been sitting outside for quite a few years (fortunately with a jar over the exhaust), and is, I believe, in running condition, but has not been used in a long time. However, I am afraid that the elements have taken their toll on the transmission. It is in gear and I cannot pull it out, I cannot push the clutch pedal in, and I cannot turn the pto shaft, although I don't think it is engaged. Is it possible that the transmission has gotten water in it and frozen up? How are these transmissions to work on? Is it a risky job for a transmission novice? Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks, Nathan

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Marty

08-26-2003 21:08:09




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 Re: Oliver 88 Tranny in reply to Nathan, 08-25-2003 20:14:43  
If you buy it and need transmissin or rear end parts, let me know. I have complete rear ends and transmissions.



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Jerry B

08-26-2003 15:32:28




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 Re: Oliver 88 Tranny in reply to Nathan, 08-25-2003 20:14:43  
Nathan,
As Clint said a transmission full of water is a good possiblity. The shifter boots crack with age and water runs right down the gear pole into the trans. Also (and this has happened on all of my 88's) the rear end cover cracks at the corners where it is stamped upward to form a gear clearance hump. Water runs in the cracks and fills the trans.

Like Clint said, you need to drain the trans and rear end. He said to drain it and put in new. He meant oil, not water. ;) I would be willing to bet it has a lot of water in it. As long as the water isn't very rusty, then there likely isn't a lot of rust damage.

As far as not being able to push the clutch in, it could be the pedal is rusted to its mounting stud on the trans case. The throwout bearing carrier could be rusted to transmission input shaft preventing the pedal from moving.

A can of PB Blaster, a small hammer, pliers and a large screw driver can go a long way to determing what you have to work with.

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Clint @ MD

08-26-2003 12:09:30




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 Re: Oliver 88 Tranny in reply to Nathan, 08-25-2003 20:14:43  
I guess to answer your question, since Ollie really didn't, is simple.

See if you can use a hand crank to turn the engine over by hand. Keep the switch off. Things might be freed up, even better.

There are a handful of things to do to prepare the engine before you try to fire it back up.

If you believe it was running when it was last parked then it sounds like the clutch is froze tight to your flywheel. Free it up like he mentioned, if you get it running. With the clutch free see if you can change gears. It's possible the clucth is rusted up and might need replacing. Not big expense but it is a big hassle since the engine needs pulled to do this unless it doesn't have a belt pulley unit behind the bell housing.

Possible water in the transmission, sure it could but it won't be a huge problem. First you have to find out by driaining it to see if water does come out. Drain it and put in new.

So, how much are you willing to pay for it the way it is and how much to spend on it?

See if you can get more info on the 88.

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Ollie

08-26-2003 04:39:28




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 Re: Oliver 88 Tranny in reply to Nathan, 08-25-2003 20:14:43  
The real risk would be buying it before you know what's wrong.

Could be the engine is stuck, this might be a small problem if it's just rust in the cylinders, a very large problem if a rod let go. The clutch is also likely stuck. You can unstick them far more easily if you can get the engine running... just go as fast as you can and wail on the clutch and brake at the same time. This can also be done with a non-running engine by towing it with another tractor but this is somewhat risky.

It also possible the owner parked it due to a transmission/final drive problem and that one or both of the above problems occurred over the years.

Unless you have lots of spare time and cash it might be best to find another 88.

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