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Playing with Power !!!!

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Shep VA

08-25-2003 06:08:41




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DRIVERS WANTED.....

I cant run them both by myself at the same time.....




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IanC

08-26-2003 18:30:46




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 Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 06:08:41  
Now all you have to do is find what MM called an "altitude compensator kit" from an A4T1600, or it in line for a big cam 400?



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ShepFL

08-25-2003 19:36:23




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 Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 06:08:41  
That 2150 sure would be sweet. How about spring time? I can drop off my Boy Scouts in Hiawassee, VA and come on by for the week. Maybe longer if you can come up with a way to claim me on your taxes :)

Problem is don't know if them boys could find there way back to FLA!! Plus for some of them their folks might get kinda worried :)

That is some brute power in them pics! Thanks for sharing er, as Myron said drooling.

Still in the weeds. . .

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Shep VA

08-26-2003 05:54:48




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 Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to ShepFL, 08-25-2003 19:36:23  
Oh I am sure we will be running them in the spring too. You just need to get you a big one so you can play too.

I am planning on putting the duels on the Moline this weekend and see if that helps my tracton issues any. Those rice tires are neat, but when they start spinnin you better still be moving foward or they will dig to china. I will have to take some pictures of that too.....

Lets see I can depreciate the tractors, not sure I can do that with the operator. I guess you could be a dependent but you would have to change your name. I just dont think I am going to be able to expense you off my taxes too easily.....

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ShepFL

08-26-2003 09:47:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-26-2003 05:54:48  
Still in the weeds - thought I found me a 1650 WFE Dsl while back but it was not. That White is still sitting. Fella has not really made a decision on my last offer. That's ok I'm patient.

As to the taxes I looked at that angle as well. Not much wiggle room.
Grins from here.



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evielboweviel

08-25-2003 18:57:13




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 Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 06:08:41  
how soon?
need a place to sleep on friday and saturday nights
sure would enjoy running either one



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Shep VA

08-26-2003 05:47:59




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 Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to evielboweviel, 08-25-2003 18:57:13  
Sure we got plenty of room to stay, but you will have to eat meat and taters, thats all we serve.

Tell you what, we were working dirt with them two in the same field and you could almost feel the noise coming off of them when they were close. You go to sleep at night and can still hear them working.

I need to get to work on that cab I got from ya, winter is coming and I havent gotten very far with that project. Im thinking of putting it on the 2150 now, not sure yet.

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evielboweviel

08-26-2003 09:56:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-26-2003 05:47:59  
does it get any better??
meat and taters and a big Ollie to drive!!!
talking to wife to see if I can come this weekend.
Thanks
Ron



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Super 55

08-25-2003 08:50:22




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 Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 06:08:41  
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Sure you can!



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Bob Clark

08-26-2003 19:01:17




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 Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Super 55, 08-25-2003 08:50:22  
This reminds me of a rig put together by Phil Gettinger (rip) in Eastern Indiana in the 80's. He bought 5 or 6 (I think) 4020's and 4010's when the local JD Dealer burned to the ground. A couple became pullers and the rest he rebuilt. Two of them became a hitch much like the R's. He pulled a hugh chisel plow. They were both turbo'd so he probably had 250 to 300 horsepower combined.



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Mike (WA)

08-25-2003 18:43:22




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 Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Super 55, 08-25-2003 08:50:22  
Super 55, that almost looks like it could be Lynden! I didn't make it this year- but its a great show. On the subject of "tandems"- I had occasion to be in Assiniboia (sp), Saskatchewan a few years ago- ended up at the farm of an older fellow who is the uncrowned king of IH WD40's (the first mass-produced diesel tractor). He had about 30 of them, including a tandem outfit. Said it "pulled like he**", but, like most of the others, it hadn't run in years. He had WD 40's in sheds, in the field, out behind the barn, everywhere. Wouldn't sell them for love or money- "let the heirs decide what to do with them when I'm gone- they were never interested when I was alive, but they damn sure will be when it comes to getting some money out of them after I'm gone!"

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Super 55

08-25-2003 21:29:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Mike (WA), 08-25-2003 18:43:22  
Yep that's Lynden. I am sure that fellow has been there before and there was once a Minni Moe set up like that at the show.

I think that JD came from Montana and hauled grain trains.



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OlMax

08-25-2003 18:26:27




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 Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Super 55, 08-25-2003 08:50:22  
In the 50's and early 60's in Illinois there were several tandem hook-ups, I saw 2 JD 70's at the county fair, heard of other combinations. Neighbor used W-9 to pull 5 bottom plow and 2 row planter, first plow plant set-up//// . One company made a hitch for just that purpose, hydraulic steering and complicated systems for clutchs etc. Sorry, no pictures, just in my mind.



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Shep VA

08-25-2003 09:04:17




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 Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Super 55, 08-25-2003 08:50:22  
Hey that is pretty cool, wonder if I can hook the moline to the front of the Oliver and make that work. Corse I would have to hitch the coulter chisel and the field cultivator togeather too so I could pull everything at once.

Hmmmmm sounds like a shop project..... ...

I did have my two hooked togeather this sping, we had a simi with 900 bu of corn get stuck and the 2150 Oliver couldnt get enough traction to pull it out by itself, so the moline got put in front to help. Once we got the simi out we were unhooking and the hook in the grade 70 chan was bent where we hooked on to the Kenworth.. Oh how close to breaking a chain..... That was a lot of HP pulling on that simi for that chain to handle.
Wish I woulda had my camera for that one.....

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Super 55

08-25-2003 09:29:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 09:04:17  
Yikes, I wouldn't want to be near that chain if it snapped. I was looking at your farm website. You have a very nice farm and great toys! I was wondering why you didn't have a Super 55 instead of that Massey 135?



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Shep VA

08-25-2003 10:27:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Super 55, 08-25-2003 09:29:15  
Thanks for the comments Super 55. I have a bunch of new pictures and I have been meaning to update my site, but I just havent gotten there yet.

Yeah the 55 and the 135 are about the same tractor, if I had it to do over again I would probably get a 55 or a 550 diesel instead. I really wanst looking for that massy when I got it, I kinda accidently bought it at an auction for $2,500 I think. You know how that goes....I was needing a small tractor and that was a super price and the tractor was in great shape sooooo o I ended up taking it home.

We run it in the turkey houses in the worst possible conditions you can imagine tilling up litter and all I have done to it in 10 years is change the oil and replace the air filters all the time. I did put a clutch in it once, and that two stage clutch is still not right and it is a real pain, but other than that it has been a super tractor. That little perkins diesel is just a super engine.

I guess you have to have a little varity in color. I have a 684 IH tractor too, so I do have a few that are not green or yellow, but not many :-)

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Chris IN

08-25-2003 17:39:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 10:27:33  
Hey Shep nice collection. I am an IH and Oliver collector. I was thinking of putting a 372 Perkins in an 88. However, after seeing your Cummins conversion, I might opt for that. Any advice you could give me would be great. Right now I am working on finding a BIG Ollie to work around the farm with, all of my stuff is tooooo ooooo small. By the way a friend of mine has 2 unstyled A's put into a 4 wheel drive configuration. I told him that was the only way JD could come up with a 4 cylinder engine. Thanks for the ideas Chris

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Myron KY

08-25-2003 07:14:22




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 Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 06:08:41  
Dang you Shep. Ya done made me drool all over and ruin another keyboard. ":^)

How's that Mighty Moline working out for you?



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Shep VA

08-25-2003 08:41:53




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 Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Myron KY, 08-25-2003 07:14:22  
Its doing good. What a brute of a tractor!! I have been pulling a field cultivator with it and a batwing disc and it can pull them in direct 3 or low 4 without too much trouble. Have put 60 hrs on it so far this year and its used maybe 3 quarts of oil so far. Not too bad considering I have the black smoke rolling most of the time.

I can tell I have problems on #1 cylinder though, probably some cracked rings, its down on compression on #1 and its leaking fuel?? out of the intake and exhaust gaskets on that cylinder. I figure I can get another season out of it maybe before I have to tear it down. Im definatly not replacing that engine, just updating it and rebuilding it, I kinda like that big 585ci engine. It does need a turbo though. I still need to fix the over drive too, its kinda slow going down the road.....

Sorry about the keyboard, just come on up and help me work some fields this fall and you wont have that problem..... ..

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Myron KY

08-25-2003 12:09:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Playing with Power !!!! in reply to Shep VA, 08-25-2003 08:41:53  
Glad to here it's doing the job for you.

I'm afraid that getting to operate one of your fine tractors would make the drooling worse. ":^)



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