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HoyBoy

07-07-2003 03:10:10




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I posted a message about a baler tractor. The recommended tractor was the 1650 with hydra shift. There were several responses that mentioned free wheeling when in low range going down hill? How do you deal with that? Ride the brakes? Don't use low range?
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VADAVE

07-07-2003 10:27:41




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 Re: Free Wheeling? in reply to HoyBoy, 07-07-2003 03:10:10  
All the three speeds freewheel in low range going down hill. It is recommended that you use direct as much as possible, although that isn't always possible. I try to not use low range as much as possible. If I am in low range when I start down you can either shift to direct or ride the brakes.



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Richard

07-07-2003 04:01:34




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 Re: Free Wheeling? in reply to HoyBoy, 07-07-2003 03:10:10  
It's never been an issue with me, I simply push the Hydrapower knob in before going down hill and let the tractor do it's own braking. The Hydra has a sprag clutch in it that freewheels if the output shaft spins faster then the input shaft, by simply putting the selector knob in direct, it locks these two up keeping the from freewheeling.

I normally use the proper gear for what I'm doing and only use the Hydra for dropping a gear when I hit heavy stuff like mowing, then put it back in High.

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alberta dave

07-07-2003 21:28:33




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 Re: Re: Free Wheeling? in reply to Richard, 07-07-2003 04:01:34  
Do you feather the clutch when engaging the direct drive? I have found that there is a strong shudder on my Cockshutts when dropping back to direct.



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Larry from MD

07-08-2003 17:54:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Free Wheeling? in reply to alberta dave, 07-07-2003 21:28:33  
Don't use the clutch,slowing the engine will help some.the hydropower was 30% so there is more of a jerk than with the 3 speed which is only 20%.



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off the land

07-07-2003 10:32:48




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 Re: Re: Free Wheeling? in reply to Richard, 07-07-2003 04:01:34  
We get back to that question of who's technology
did the tractor manufacturer use? This under-drive
dates back to the 50's models. Great for plowing,
heavy tillage, never any free-wheeling, but the baler and hills, careful. Models like the 1650, with over/under-hydraul shift held on declines,
in 'over'. The earlier hydra power was only underdrive, like some other colors, free-wheeled.
How did FORD make dual power not free-wheel on
their 70HP 6600 tractor? As a Oliver operator, I
thought that the 6600 was the best baler tractor
around. I certainly praise the 1650 though...

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WFE

07-08-2003 17:34:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Free Wheeling? in reply to off the land, 07-07-2003 10:32:48  
Depends if you're on the tractor or on the rack. I'd bale behind an Oliver any day over any other powershift. Sudden, jerky downshifts have resulted in more than a few icy glares being directed at tractor drivers. With the Oliver's Hydra-Power or Over/Under powershift, a shift into the low range was very smooth because it was only a clutch disengaging, and not another one engaging. Then again, we don't bale on mountainsides so the freewheeling issue has been nothing but a positive for us.

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