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How much weight behind 1850?

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Jon

05-07-2003 12:48:54




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I am looking at purchasing a small crawler loader. Somewhere in the 12000 to 15000 lb range. I don't have a truck large enough to move it with and was wondering if my 1850 was capable of moving it around my farm on a trailer. As with any trailer, I am sure I can pull it, but stopping it is another thing. I would stay away from hills in the fields because of lack of traction, but I do have a couple of hills that are on the blacktop road that I would need to pull it on. Tractor does NOT have duals. Is this too much weight to pull behind me? Will the tongue support it as well?

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just a question...

05-08-2003 06:41:38




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 Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to Jon, 05-07-2003 12:48:54  
how big is your farm that you need to haul your crawler around? we just drive ours to where it is needed. our place is only 100 acres though. md



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Jon

05-09-2003 05:44:48




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 Re: Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to just a question..., 05-08-2003 06:41:38  
It is about 120 acres. I probably could drive it around, but I want to minimize the amount of wear on the undercarriage. From everyone I have talked to, the straight line, distance driving can cause pre-mature wear to the undercarriage.



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RB

05-10-2003 16:49:12




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 Re: Re: Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to Jon, 05-09-2003 05:44:48  
When I first read your post, I thought in terms of 2000 to 4000 acres and I was agreeing with your hauling idea, but, unless you are going to do a lot of joyriding on it, I think you are wasting time and equipment on only 120 acres. Also you are risking damage to a fine Oliver tractor!



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DuaneW-OH

05-08-2003 04:32:25




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 Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to Jon, 05-07-2003 12:48:54  
You will not have any problems with that weight. I have pulled two 275 bu grain wagons on the road in road gear with my 1650. Farmer I was helping (a red farmer) couldn't beleive that I could make the trip to the elevator as quickly with my little 1650 as he did with his 5288.



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off the land

05-07-2003 15:13:11




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 Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to Jon, 05-07-2003 12:48:54  
We had an 1800, WFE,18.4x34 loaded tires,and a Cat
D4 with blade, PTO. To transport the Cat, a 2 wheel trailer was built, 10-20 tires. With the blade off, the 5 1/2 ton Cat was easy to haul over
the back roads, to run on the 2 row cornpicker, in
muddy fields. Blade-on was a full load, careful moving, but at about 8 to 10 miles an hour, the
loaded 1800, managed the run well. Major hills,
loose soil, might pose a challenge, to unload,
drive the Cat up/down the hill, reload. Good luck.

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Jon

05-07-2003 16:14:53




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 Re: Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to off the land, 05-07-2003 15:13:11  
You pulled the Cat on a 2 wheel trailer? I have a 4 wheel hd car hauler trailer with 7000 lb axles, but I am hesitant to put 15000 lbs on it. How heavy duty was the trailer you used?

Thanks for the reply. Sounds like I won't have to much problem pulling and stopping it.


Jon



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Steve

05-08-2003 03:34:20




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 Re: Re: Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to Jon, 05-07-2003 16:14:53  
Jon, please double check the GVW rating on your trailer. 15000 sounds pretty stout for a car hauler. Most car haulers have 3500# axels for a combined weight of 7000#. If you do have a 14000 GVW rated trailer I would still be very hesitant to haul that kind of load. Most of these trailers are built pretty light in areas other than the axels. I have seen trailers loaded with less than the maximum GVW rating that look grossly overloaded. The tractor will be the least of your problems. Be careful I hate to see yu ruin your trailer.

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m kuhns

05-07-2003 15:12:05




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 Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to Jon, 05-07-2003 12:48:54  
A 3,000 gallon manure tanker weighs around 30,000 loaded. An Oliver 2255 has basically the same drawbar as an 1850 except for the pin that holds the drawbar to the tractor which is larger. The drawbar is fine. We live on hills and constantly pull around fully loaded silage wagons in excess of 16,000 with our 1655 and 1750 and larger tractors including our 1850. We have on no weights and no fluid in the tires.What I am trying to say is that this should be a walk in the park for an 1850. You should have no problem stopping it either if your brakes work right. How about an Oliver 2255 weighing 19,000 pulling a 5,000 gallon manure tanker weighing 60,000 with total weight combined of 80,000. Now that is a load going up and down hills.

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Jon

05-07-2003 16:11:04




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 Re: Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to m kuhns, 05-07-2003 15:12:05  
Wow.. that's pretty impressive. I kind of assumed it would not be too bad. I am not sure how much corn weighs, but you see these 500 & 600 bushel grain carts being pulled around and I would think they weigh up there too. As far the drawbar, I agree the bar itself is fine, but mine is bolted to a support with 2 - 5/8 bolts and a flat piece of metal. I wouldn't guess there would be too much tongue weight, and to be cautious, I will probably run a chaine around the lift arms and tounge just for a little added suport.

Thanks for the replies.

Jon (IN)

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m kuhns

05-07-2003 19:57:13




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 Re: Re: Re: How much weight behind 1850? in reply to Jon, 05-07-2003 16:11:04  
THey make a roller and 2 brackets that attach to the drawbar instead of the 2 5/8 bolts. But I would think the 2 5/8 bolts would be just as strong. We have a metal plate with two bolts on our 1750 and 1850. Makes it easier to adjust the drawbar at pulls. We pull around a 450 bushel gravity bin wagon with our 1750. That weighs around 20,000 if I remember correctly. With that weight, on the road you should be able to run high gear if it is a diesel.

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