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Shep VA

05-05-2003 10:18:28




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I know its not an Oliver, but its part Ollie. It just got off the truck this morning and seems to run good. It doesnt have the external oil pump conversion on it, I may have to work on that. I am gonna get it in the shop tonight and go over it real good. Wonder how those rice and cane tires are gonna get along in the red clay in these mountains, corse if it keeps rainin we might need them.

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Dsl

05-08-2003 09:22:56




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 Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA, 05-05-2003 10:18:28  
That's real neat, Shep! A G1355 w/ROPS & canopy has GOT to be scarce. Congrads on your latest.

Y'know, looking at that big puppy, the art of tractor building seems to be a lost one. *sigh*



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mike in mn

05-09-2003 12:07:07




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Dsl, 05-08-2003 09:22:56  
thats for sure.



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WFE

05-06-2003 18:08:04




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 Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA, 05-05-2003 10:18:28  
Hey Shep! She's a real beauty! I can see lots of potential in this machine. If your better half fails to see the "potential" like we do, I'll be more than happy to come to VA to pick it up, really! Looking at a potential G1355 myself only with factory cab. If I got it, would most likely remove cab and add fender tanks like yours. Now you're not going to go and put a Cummins in this one, are you? Na, probably wouldn't fit in that small engine cavity...
Let me know if the new addition isn't so welcomed.

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Shep

05-07-2003 05:06:55




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to WFE, 05-06-2003 18:08:04  
Oh shes comin around, but I have a feeling I am going to have to put in a new bathroom in the house before I can buy anymore toys..... I imagine after the new bathroom she will be so ingrossed in that she wont even remember the yellow tractor anymore..... I gotta start buying all the same color tractors though, a big yellow tractor is hard to hide in with the big green ones. Your more than welcome to come to VA anyway and help me work ground this spring though, we have plenty of tractor drivin to do around here when the weather breaks...

Not planning on changing the engine on this one unless I have to. The old 585 MM sounds pretty good and even if it does start having problems I will probably try to rebuild it and update it and get it going again. Well at least I will rebuild it once before repowering it. Just like the 310 Waukesha, I gave it two shots at a rebuild before I finally gave up, same with the 585 Moline, I will give it a few shots at living. I am learning a lot about the 585 engine and there are some updates and things I am finding out I need to do to it to make it last a little longer, kinda like the updates to the 310 that you have to do.

I need to put an external oil pump on it with spin on oil filters, slow the RPMs to 2000 max, change the 4 main bearings, and if the engine starts slobbering too much I need to put in 2655 Pistons with better rings and more clearence, and replace the valves with 2-150 White valves.

Thats the updates I have learned so far, but am always looking for more.

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mike in mn

05-09-2003 12:24:49




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 Re: Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep, 05-07-2003 05:06:55  
hey shep! how is the 1655 repower coming along? are you using it yet? we have a G-900 at home. It has got the 451cid. diesel in it and max rpm is 1800rpm. and I'd think yours would be set at the same rpm. we have had good luck with ours. but we have had the water pump rebuilt last summer and the radiator fixed. When we bought the tractor it had been sitting for 20 years. so when we bought it was practically a new tractor with only 2500 hrs on it. when we got it home the injector pump along with two injectors had to be rebuilt. but that was from sitting so long. since then it has been trouble free. the only disadvantage is the gears are too fast in the transmission. first gear high on the torque is almost 4 mph. thats to fast for pulling a two row chopper in good corn. first gear low on the torque is 3mph but is still not slow enough for the chopper. nice for getting out on the road and going somewhere in road gear. its pull your hat down and hang on. good luck with yours. looks like your gonna have one heck of a good work horse once you get in the field.

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RAB

05-05-2003 14:02:54




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 Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA, 05-05-2003 10:18:28  
Looks like you might be able to get a little more weight on those rears yet! Maybe the tyres ballasted as well?
Looks good, have fun.
Regards, RAB



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Shep VA

05-06-2003 05:49:27




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to RAB, 05-05-2003 14:02:54  
It has duels that go along with it, they had them off for transport, and they are rice and cane tires too. All the rear tires are empty and there is no weights on it at all and it is still a heavy tractor. I dont know if I am going to need anymore weight, will see when it gets to the field. Thanks

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VADAVE

05-05-2003 13:24:49




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 Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA, 05-05-2003 10:18:28  
My Oliver book says that a 2155 and a 1355 are the same tractor just different colors. Course I could be wrong.



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M kuhns

05-05-2003 14:33:50




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to VADAVE, 05-05-2003 13:24:49  
The engine is the only thing they share in common. We have a 2155. It is 100 percent MM. The rear, trans, torque and engine are all MM. A G-1350 is the same as a 2155 Oliver A G-1355 is the same as a White 2-150 with oliver trans, torque and rear.



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VADAVE

05-08-2003 15:08:45




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 Re: Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to M kuhns, 05-05-2003 14:33:50  
Yup, you're right. Checked the book again I remembered it wrong.



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Sam M

05-05-2003 13:12:06




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 Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA, 05-05-2003 10:18:28  
Hey Shep ,

What I know about MMs would fit into a thimble . What are the vitals on this tractor like horse power , engine size , number of cylinders , transmission type , number of gears or transmission ranges , top speed , hydraulic system (open , closed ) etc . Was this tractor ever converted into an Oliver tractor after White bought MM ?



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Shep VA

05-06-2003 05:56:45




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Sam M , 05-05-2003 13:12:06  
It is about 150 HP with the 585ci 6 cylinder diesel Moline engine out front with no turbo. The engine looks all origional with the internal oil pump and about 2700 hours on it. The engine seems strong but is smoking some and has some blow by, but not bad yet, and it is very hard to start when it is cold. The rear from the clutch back is basically a 2255 Oliver rear end. same 6 speed transmission with the three speed over/under and the closed center hydraulics. The over drive is not working in my tractor, I figure the clutch is out of the three speed so I will fix that sometime. From what I am learning the tractor was an oliver, a G-1355 Oliver and was also a red White 2270, and it is very close to a 2-150 White tractor. Kind of a neat machine. This tractor is Model 135-22084 serial 242-787-401 if anyone knows what the numbers mean.

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Myron KY

05-06-2003 07:07:44




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 Re: Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA, 05-06-2003 05:56:45  
Shep, The model number (135-22084) does tell us that it is a G1355 with adjustable front axle and diesel engine. The serial number (242-787) says it was manufactured in 1973. The (401) at the end of the serial number is a drive line code on Oliver's. I'm assuming it is with Moline's as well. I've no idea what the 401 correlates to though. There is an Oliver Tractor Identification reference on the Oliver Gang Site that I found. It's located in the Jan 1, 2003 Forum archive under thread named "Model Number". I believe BA Star was involved in this reference.

Hope this helps.
Myron KY

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TP

05-05-2003 18:05:29




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Sam M , 05-05-2003 13:12:06  
In answer to your question white sold the G1355 also as a OLIVER from the factory OLIVER green . . I owned one for about 5 yrs then traded it for a 2-155 . The fellow who owned it before me owned two of them he traded it in for a big Ford .Had very good luck with it no problems. TP



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Shep VA again

05-05-2003 10:19:55




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 Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA, 05-05-2003 10:18:28  
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Here is another view. Any advice on it would be nice, never had a big Moline like this before.



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ShepFL

05-05-2003 13:43:01




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA again, 05-05-2003 10:19:55  
Son!

While looking a little closer at the side profile of the MM I couldn't help but notice the hood line of the RH tractor. I think I see a yella emblem on the RH tractor. Looks kinda like a . . . . Nah, can't be, couldn't be coming from ShepVA!

Grins from FL!
PS - nice looking rig as always.
knee high in corn and 'maters here



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Shep VA

05-05-2003 14:36:10




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 Re: Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to ShepFL , 05-05-2003 13:43:01  
Yup your right, it had to share a truck with one of those "other green" tractors. Dont worry that "other" tractor was only on my field for a short period of time, so I think everything will be OK.

Thanks for the comments
Keep grinnin in FL



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Myron KY

05-05-2003 11:04:08




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 Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep VA again, 05-05-2003 10:19:55  
Real nice looking Moline there Shep. I can't offer any advice other than you may want to stay out of skillet range for awhile. :^)

Myron KY



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Shep Va

05-05-2003 11:18:43




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 Re: Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Myron KY, 05-05-2003 11:04:08  
Yeah, I think your right. If I dont post for a few days it might be skillet related.....

It is tough to hide a yellow moline in with my green Olivers so she wont notice :-) Im gonna have to stay with getting green ones I guess.



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Larry from MD

05-05-2003 16:37:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: New G-1355 Toy in reply to Shep Va, 05-05-2003 11:18:43  
Well I have the same engine in a 2655 and I wish it had any other engine in it.The problems have been so bad that i hardly ever run it.The external oil pump is supposed to be a big help but is allso a big problem.If you put it on add a check valve so it wont loose its prime when the relief valve sticks open.If you plan to use it make sure you have the new style valves for the 2-150 in it or it will drop them into the piston and destroy the cylinder and piston,this happened to us 3 times in 200 hours.the valves are 75$ each.

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