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03-20-1998 19:51:12




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What was the relationship between Oliver & Waukesha? Were the engines designed by Waukesha? Did Oliver design the engines and Waukesha just build them? Or were the designs a joint venture similar to Case and Cummins?




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MM

04-05-1998 17:59:24




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 Re: OLIVER & WAUKESHA in reply to H, 03-20-1998 19:51:12  
One more thing: Maybe the better discussion is which was better a Waukesha Oliver or a Detriot Oliver. In my opinion the oliver would wear out the Waukesha but the Detriot would wear out the Oliver.
: What was the relationship between Oliver & Waukesha? Were the engines designed by Waukesha? Did Oliver design the engines and Waukesha just build them? Or were the designs a joint venture similar to Case and Cummins?

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Cory Ziegler

05-04-1998 17:13:45




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 Re: Re: OLIVER & WAUKESHA in reply to MM, 04-05-1998 17:59:24  
The relationship was indeed a joint venture between
the two. They jointly engineered the engines and Oliver
made the block, head, pan, valve cover, and other
external components in their vast foundry. These parts
were then shipped to Waukesha, Wisconsin to Waukesha
where Waukesha installed sleeves, pistons, crank, cam
valves, etc. all the internal components, and then
shipped the completed engines back to Charles City
to be installed in the best tractors in the world. This is a very interesting relationship and I would be happy to discuss it with anyone over email. As for the discussion on Waukesha versus Detroit, Detroit engines
were definitely superior, ie 1950 GM vs 1950-T. But I don't
believe either one is capable of outlasting Olivers
superior drivetrain.

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Cory Ziegler

05-04-1998 17:13:16




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 Re: Re: OLIVER & WAUKESHA in reply to MM, 04-05-1998 17:59:24  
The relationship was indeed a joint venture between
the two. They jointly engineered the engines and Oliver
made the block, head, pan, valve cover, and other
external components in their vast foundry. These parts
were then shipped to Waukesha, Wisconsin to Waukesha
where Waukesha installed sleeves, pistons, crank, cam
valves, etc. all the internal components, and then
shipped the completed engines back to Charles City
to be installed in the best tractors in the world. This is a very interesting relationship and I would be happy to discuss it with anyone over email. As for the discussion on Waukesha versus Detroit, Detroit engines
were definitely superior, ie 1950 GM vs 1950-T. But I don't
believe either one is capable of outlasting Olivers
superior drivetrain.

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Fred Olsen

03-21-1998 00:50:46




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 Re: OLIVER & WAUKESHA in reply to H, 03-20-1998 19:51:12  
H: Waukeshas for Oliver were "build-per-print" Waukesha-designed engines from our "VR" series. Some were short blocks to which Oliver fitted their head, some were long blocks with a Waukesha head. It varied with the (Oliver) model. ALL accessories were added by Oliver. As I gain more knowledge, I may find more info to add to this from Waukesha's point of view.
Regards, Fred.
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Chris

03-20-1998 21:55:01




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 Re: OLIVER & WAUKESHA in reply to H, 03-20-1998 19:51:12  
: What was the relationship between Oliver & Waukesha? Were the engines designed by Waukesha? Did Oliver design the engines and Waukesha just build them? Or were the designs a joint venture similar to Case and Cummins?
As far as I know, Waukesha built them. The same engine that is in a 55o oliver is in a whole bunch of forklifts



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