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Difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch

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Jake

01-21-2003 15:11:23




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Hello everyone,
I have been looking at olivers for a while and have come to the conclusion I need an 880 diesel. I have been reading through the archives and can't seem to find the difference between the 3 point hitch and the traction hitch. Are they the same? Or are they totally different. Also is there any way to tell the options a tractor has by the serial or spec number. Thanks Jake




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Jake

01-21-2003 20:36:33




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 Re: difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch in reply to Jake, 01-21-2003 15:11:23  
So the traction hitch doesn't have a stationary draw bar like a regular three point. Kinda like Case's eagle hitch. So I am assuming the regular three point is more desirable and a traction hitch doesn't really have an impact on the value of the tractor. Neighbor has an 880 diesel with power steering, wide front, power booster, and a what I believe is a three point hitch, her husband bought it new been in the shed since maybe 1200 hours. What would be a good price. Thanks a lot for you opinions. Jake

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Scott Green

01-22-2003 01:13:18




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 Re: Re: difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch in reply to Jake, 01-21-2003 20:36:33  
Jake , The power traction hitch does have a draw bar. It's the hydra hitch that doesn't. I have pictures of both. If I had your e-mail address , I would send you pictures.



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Dkaiser

01-22-2003 16:11:20




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 Re: Re: Re: difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch in reply to Scott Green, 01-22-2003 01:13:18  
The hydra hitch will use the tractors regular draw bar I believe. I know the older oliver 3-points have a different drawbar, but I think the hydra hitch is the same. The traction hitch has a swinging drawbar that mounts on the hitch itself between the lift arms. I think the actual drawbar is the same, but the frame that mounts it it totally different on the traction hitch. From what I've heard the traction hitches are worth $500 and you can add that to a value of a tractor that has it. I don't know if that price has increased or not. My dad purchased a traction hitch for out 880 last fall and he paid i think around $600 for it and it was pretty much complete. It was a little more than he wanted to spend, but he bought a 5540 plow, which is the one used with the traction hitch, for about $25 so the cost kind of offset. I saw a hydra hitch sell on a sale and I think it brought about the same money. I have never seen too many of them on oliver tractors. If you are going to buy it make sure it only uses one hydraulic cylinder. All oliver 3-points of that age used only one hydraulic cylinder. If it has 2 it would be an aftermarked hitch.

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Fritz

01-21-2003 16:53:20




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 Re: difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch in reply to Jake, 01-21-2003 15:11:23  
The easiest way to tell the difference between the traction hitch and the hydro hitch, is the traction hitch lift arms can't be spread apart or pulled back together. The only adjustment in the width is by changing the "claws" from one side to the other. It works good as one position is for cat. #1 implements and the other is for cat. #2. The only drag is if you find a piece of equipment that falls somewhere in the middle, either by design or modifcation.

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Scott Green

01-21-2003 17:50:50




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 Re: Re: difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch in reply to Fritz, 01-21-2003 16:53:20  
May I also add: Part of the power traction hitch also bolts to the belly of the tractor , just in front of the rear wheels.



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DKaiser

01-21-2003 19:31:47




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 Re: Re: Re: difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch in reply to Scott Green, 01-21-2003 17:50:50  
I think that is the whole point of the traction hitch. The mounting placed more foward on the tractor is supposed to place more pull on the rear wheels for better traction. To me the traction hitch seems to hang lower and I don't think it will lift as high as the hydra hitch will. I also belive that the ends will snap out of the traction hitch so you can connect them to the three point pins on the implement and back into it and they will snap back into place for easy mounting, something like what a international quick hitch would be, but not exactly the same. I'm sorry that's a little vague, but I haven't really looked over our traction hitch yet to see how exactly it works. Someone PLEASE correct me if i'm wrong there, thanks.

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firedog

01-24-2003 11:43:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: difference between a 3pt and a traction hitch in reply to DKaiser, 01-21-2003 19:31:47  
The arms on a traction hitch will not "snap" in like the IH fast hitch. They were pinned and every time you went from a CAT 1 to CAT 2 type implement, they had to be swapped . That meant some jiggling and juggling to get the pin holes lined up plus the fixed or float positions on the verticle lift arms. There were specific positions for different implements (semi-mounted plows, etc.)
However, those hitches were great for adjusting to the tongue height of whatever piece equipment that you were hooking up to. You just backed up, touched the hyd. lever, and slipped the drawbar right in,Set your brake and then got off to pin the equipment.
I still have the old 770 and she runs as good ever. The Old Man said she was a 'Modern Tractor' back in 1959 when he bought it "New".

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