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1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons?

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Ghostrider

01-14-2003 07:26:51

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I usually hang on the "other" green board, but I'm looking to switch. I've found a nice project tractor. It's a 1900 or 1950 oliver. I haven't seen it up close. Called the owner, he didn't know the model number off hand. Said it had a detroit in it. It should be either a 1900 or 1950 because of the later styling. The owner said they parked it because "something" went out in the rear end. Is this a problem for these tractors? I don't know what he wants for the thing. He said the engine is good. I'm looking to run a 13ft offset disk, 15 shank chisel, 20 ft culitvator, 5x6 round baler. I'm also looking at a 5020 John Deere and a 145 Versatile. I think the Oliver would be the best all around machine. This would be a weekend farm, and I'm prepared to do my own wrenching. Would these tractors handle a front end loader well? It's a wide front end, open station. Thanks.

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02-17-2003 11:52:42

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Re: 1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons? in reply to Ghostrider, 01-14-2003 07:26:51

Some of the early 1900's had bull gear problems if pulled hard the later 1950's I'm not sure. If the differential was low on oil and burned up, you should gather your split tailed gown and run, it will take more doctoring than its worth.

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Dsl

01-14-2003 09:38:46

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Re: 1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons? in reply to Ghostrider, 01-14-2003 07:26:51

So yer not plannin ta be a very quiet ghost, are ya? ;-)

A later 1900 or a 1950 should handle the tillage tools you've mentioned, providing the land isn't too heavy, or you'll have to gear down a lil slower. I don't think it would be a particularly nice round baler tractor, though, especially if you're using a soft core baler, because they need power, which means you've gotta wind the tractor up, but often a round baler doesn't need full 540RPM PTO speed, which leaves you in a bit of a spot, as the Olivers develop their PTO horsepower at full governed RPM. Varying engine and PTO speeds aren't the 1900/1950's forte`. It should be passable for a loader, but, again, a Screamin Jimmy is really more intended as a field tractor, and to pretty well run wide open all day.

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Larry

01-14-2003 14:32:31

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Re: Re: 1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons? in reply to Dsl, 01-14-2003 09:38:46

I think DSL. is baseing his thoughts on his souped up oliver that has lots more HP.An 11 shank plow is plenty for a 1950 and a 10 foot offset disk is allso plenty if you let it all the way down.Douls with lots of weight will be needed too if you go larger.There are lots of things to wrong in the rear espically if its run low on gear oil.The 1900's did have a problem with soft ring and pinuons.Oliver had a repair under warrenty if it was done to this tractor.You can't really compare a 1900 to a 5020 or 145 they are completely differant sized tractors.

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Ghostrider

01-15-2003 06:25:14

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Re: Re: Re: 1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons? in reply to Larry, 01-14-2003 14:32:31

I did some more research and found out that a 1900 is around 100 horse. I was thinking it was 140 horse. With this in mind, I would probably use a 9 shank chisel, 4-16 plow, 10 ft offset and 18 ft cultivator. It would depend on the price to buy it. If the ring and pinion is bad, that could get expensive. Also, the shavings could have trashed the hydraulic pump.

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Sam M

01-15-2003 06:46:44

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons? in reply to Ghostrider, 01-15-2003 06:25:14

If the "shavings" you are referring to are from the transmission or differential (rear end) , they should not ruin the hydraulic pump on a 1950 or (I think) a 1900 . If the hydraulics and transmission and rear end on the 1950 are like my 1850 , which I think it is , the transmission and bull gears and pto , etc run in gear oil of approximately 90 to 150 weight depending on what the owner used . There is a pump which circulates the gear oil that has it own filter . Unlike say a John Deere , the transmission and rear end do not run in hydraulic or tractor fluid . There is a seperate sump and pump for the hydraulic fluid with its own filter . The pan for the hydraulic fluid sits above the transmission and rear end and the hydraulic fluid and gear oil should not mix . It would be very difficult if not impossible for shavings from the gears or transmission to get to the hydraulic pump since they would have to go through the pan above the rear end that makes up the hydraulic fluid sump . Shavings from the gears might ruin the transmission gear oil pump .

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ghostrider

01-15-2003 08:49:17

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons? in reply to Sam M, 01-15-2003 06:46:44

That's good info. I'm used to the combined system of the Deeres. I've got to get out and look at the tires and other stuff before I buy it. Looks like it might make a better tractor for a puller to rebuild.

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Tom

01-15-2003 13:52:55

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1900-1950 Oliver Project? Pros-cons? in reply to ghostrider, 01-15-2003 08:49:17

I had a 1950 in central Wis. I used it with a 11 shank it pulled it fairly good it that clay soil .If I scratched the clay too much it would spin out, it had 23.1x34 on it 1/2 full of fluid. Just tought I wuld add my two cents. Tom

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