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WFE

12-30-2002 10:53:46




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Hypothetically speaking, could one realistically strip down a 2255 Oliver, two wheel drive, to 12,500 pounds or less with a 200 pound operator? Thinking of removing cab and fluid from tires and equipping with fender fuel tanks as an open station tractor, but otherwise keeping as much original intact as possible (wide front end, cast iron grill, O/U drive, and planetaries). Anyone have any experience or shipping weight information on this? Time to start thinking about the 2003 pulling season!

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Eric The Red

01-01-2003 15:19:42




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
You can do a lot with this tractor. Harry Barrick from Newville, Pa has a 2255 all the way down to 5500lbs yes you heard me that is was it pulls at. There is a custom NFE on it and every thing that you can take off. Good guys to talk to on this tractor are Rudy and Tom Maibach from Creston Ohio 1-800-808-9934. These guys are great oliver men who can build anything if you have the dollars and they have done it for themselves. They have taken an 1850 that they rigged up a Mack inline pump on that just gets your blood flowing. I know that they have the know how to get the horses out of the 310, 354, and the 3208.
Another site to go to is:>Link
This>Link guy is out of missouri and the video clips on this site are great. He is doing good with his and they sound great, like an inline engine and not like the massey and ih v-8's. The key here I think is getting the air to this engine with a turbo.

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m kuhns

01-01-2003 17:21:30




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 Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to Eric The Red, 01-01-2003 15:19:42  
Harry Barrick's 2255's in the 5,500Lbs class are just a 1650 rear ends with the 3208 Cat, and Oliver narrow front. It has a C-channel frame. They don't run too good either. We beat him at Hughesville with our little old Diesel 88 with a 310 wauksha in it running 140 hp on straight diesel. I want to build a lightweight tractor with the 3208. Harry is a good guy and have been pulling against him for a long time. IF you want to see a bunch of restored olivers and some rare ones go see him so time. He has a big collection. He even has a 2655 on display as well as a couple 2255's and White 2-180's he uses. It is a neat place to stop by and druel.

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ERIC

12-31-2002 17:23:55




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
DADS IS ABOUT 11500 WITH NO CAB. MAYBE GET RID OF THE FUEL TANK FENDERS AND GO WITH LIGHTER REG FENDERS. DAD HAD A SMALL FUEL TANK MADE TO SIT AT DRIVERS LEFT FOOT.ABOUT SIX GALLONS, NOT THE BEST TANK SIZE FOR CHISEL PLOWING BUT GOOD ENOUGH FOR BRUSH HOGGING WITCH IS WHAT WE USE IT FOR, WHEN NOT PULLING.BTW WE ENDED THE 2002 SEASON WIN 4 WINS IN A ROW IN THE 12500 FARM. I EVEN PULLED IN 5TH DIRECT LAST TIME OUT. FUN RIDE! DAD ALSO HAS A 1950GM. ITS RESORED AND LOOKS NICE BUT WE HAVE ONLY MANAGED A 5TH PLACE WITH IT. IT HAS 23.1X32 ON IT. MOST TRACKS IN CENTRAL OHIO REQUIRE 1ST GEAR WITH THOSE TIRES. I CANT WAIT UNTIL SPRING AND THE RETURN OF PULLING!

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dean

12-31-2002 09:46:32




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
have not seen a 3208 or 3408 cat keep up with the 6 cylinders around here i really like olivers but the 8's just dont lug like the 6's do..had one 1468 pull for a while with a 9 liter v8 in it but had to run 2 turbos and some nitrous to keep up and kept grenading the motor...as for onboard computers that is getting into money and not at all farm or even hot stock so get ready to spend some money..good luck and hope you get it to run with the reds and other color greens and blues

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m kuhns

01-01-2003 07:51:28




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 Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to dean, 12-31-2002 09:46:32  
The IH v-8 isn't the best running v-8 to say the least. The IH motor is about maxed out in a farm tractor at about 190Hp. The Cat is used in marine applications for up to 350-400Hp constant hp. If you ran a 2255 with a 3208 Cat in it you would understand about torque and lugging power. There is one guy in our area running a 640 V-8 perkins in a 2805 MF and he is consistently keeping the I.H. guys on their toes, winning about every other class.

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dean

01-01-2003 08:01:52




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 Re: Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to m kuhns, 01-01-2003 07:51:28  
wish some of these guys with the v-8's would show up at the state fair here in missouri as i have never seen any that pull them and do any good..the dream pull we have every year is consistantly ih or jd 6's..perhaps the yrs coming will show more of what you guys are saying..as of yet i have not seen..we have 2 2255 olivers in the area pulling and they dont do very well..perhaps incorrect set up?..if the hp is as easy to get as you say why do they always power out at about 3/4 track? i dont subscribe to it but dont seem to recall any v-8's in hook mag succesful either..howerver hurricane allis with 6 was in a cpl yrs back and sure some other 6 cyl machines

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Adam Suess

01-01-2003 09:01:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to dean, 01-01-2003 08:01:52  
I pull my 2255 4wd once and a while. Not many pulls alow 4 wd in any less than 19,500#. I have had no sucess but I refuse to turn it up, or add a special draw bar and my bias tires arn't the best, spun out in 2 wd in 16,500# about 50' short of the first place 1086 and 2 nd direct in 19,500# with the 4 wd in gear. placed 2nd to last. Power was not the limiting factor. In the feild day in and day out it lugs as good if not better than most any mecanicly goverened inline 6's.

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M kuhns

01-01-2003 13:56:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to Adam Suess, 01-01-2003 09:01:56  
At our one fair we pulled the one class no pace. 17,000lbs class ran 4th direct with 20.8X38 tires that bite well on a really good clay track that takes a lot of power. I think I finished 4th out of 30 tractors. The mean ole 2255 was the only tractor without a turbo and still kept up with the IH's with only being turned up. Most IH's are running DT 466's with the 12mm head in the pump. We run the 2255 on the farm too. It pulls our 5,000 gallon tanker up over just about any hill in 5th direct and it just sits and lugs at 1800rpms. Total weight is just shy of 80,000lbs. Believe it or not, it never overheats or have any other problems except for the clutch slipping occasionly at about 225-240Hp. I still have a lot more room for more power. 2.5 more turns of fuel and a turbo should get an easy 300 if not 350 Hp.

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pat

12-31-2002 16:59:21




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 Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to dean, 12-31-2002 09:46:32  
I take it you are pretty green between the ears if you do not think a 3408 Cat has some wallop, they are only 1098 CID, alot more ponies than the little 3208 with 636 CID. But the only tractors I know with them (KW, Pete, Rome)would not be in this weight class area either.



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m kuhns

12-30-2002 19:17:45




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
The main key is to get rid of the heavy cast center around the outboard planetaries. If you get rid of them you should be in the ballpark. They should loose you 1000LBS per side. Our 2255 we pull also on the regular farm classes. IT weighs 14,600 and I seen that same weight a couple of other places. By getting rid of the heavy wheels youll be at about 12,500. Keep in mind the 14,600 is a complete tractor ready to go into the field with cab and 3pt and all Hydraulics, full tank of fuel, but no weight or fluid in the tires. If you get rid of the cab you shouldn't have any problem making the 12,500. The fender fuel tanks are quite heavy so you won't gain much by removing you cab. The grill will lose you about 225 Lbs if you make a wooden one.
keep in mind you will need at least 200 to 250 Hp to keep most IH's in their place. Just about all the I.H.guys in my area turn the screw all the way. A turn of the fuel screw will get to that real easily. Problem is you better have a really good clutch and a good torque. At above 225 Hp the clutch will normally start to slip.

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WFE

12-30-2002 23:04:33




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 Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to m kuhns, 12-30-2002 19:17:45  
Thanks everyone. That's the goal is putting the 1066s in their place, and the 1950-T, while it has its good days occasionally claiming narrow victories over the 200+ hp 1066s in the 12,500 lb class that is supposed to be, um, "Farm Stock", may not do so consistently. So I've reached the concensus that I need more cubes and don't want to butcher up my new 310 which is currently at 150hp. Sounds like I can do as I was planning to make 12,500 by removing cab and all liquid and added cast iron ballast. Since I was never fond of working with wood, I would try to leave the grill alone. Thanks for the input.

WFE

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catman

12-30-2002 17:48:26




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
ours weighs 9,000lbs with narrow front, stock frame and rearend, and custom built rear wheels



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B A Star

12-30-2002 17:47:40




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
Todd Davidson at Osceola Implement & Supply pulls one very sucessfully. It has late model White sheet metal on it. The dearship phone # is 402-747-2371.



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WFE

12-30-2002 23:07:17




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 Re: Re: 2255 info in reply to B A Star, 12-30-2002 17:47:40  
Ah, yes, I know Todd and Dave in Osceola, NE and have seen this tractor. Good Oliver people to the core. That's one mean 3208. Last I heard they were experimenting with an on-board engine performance computer and some different gear combinations for optimum wheel speed matched to the horsepower of that machine. Thanks and Regards.



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Brad

12-30-2002 15:56:07




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
With no fluid,weights,and full of fuel my 1855 weighs 10,000 even.I run 18.4-38's,but i also have a rollbarw/o canopy.I would think that you could get close.I still have 3pt. and all.I don't know how much heavier the 3208& tub is but i don't think that it would add more than a ton even with the planetaries.it will be interesting to find out.That would keep them 1066's in thier place.good luck!



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Big E

12-30-2002 11:55:41




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 Re: 2255 info in reply to WFE, 12-30-2002 10:53:46  
The 2255 that pulled at the National Show in Cedar Falls had a custom built frame and a home made wooden grill. It still looked good and you could not tell unless you got right up close, but the owner said that was the best way to drop weight. The cast in the frame and grill adds a lot of weight.



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