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1950-T vs. 966

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Jack

09-08-2002 17:29:15

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I am wanting to take my 1950-T to the local tractor pulls. It is pretty much stock except the clutch and the fuel turned up. What do you all think I can do against the IH 966's. they are what mostly pulls in my class along with an Allis Challmer D21 & a Massey 1150. I am hoping to take some names this next Saturday night.

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Oliver66

09-15-2002 21:49:09

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Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to Jack, 09-08-2002 17:29:15

I have a 1950T and 966 and the 966 is by far the stronger tractor.

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09-12-2002 06:09:36

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Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to Jack, 09-08-2002 17:29:15

It all depends what the others did to their tractors. Knowing IH the 966's engine (D-414 later D-436) were also used in turbo form on their higher HP conventional tractors 1066, 1266, 1466.

You'll probably beat a stock non-turned up 966. If the weight and weight distribution is just right and the enginge turned up you'll have a tough time. The D414/D436 with a turbo (DT414/DT436) produced over 130 PTO HP/150 PTO HP in their off the factory line configuration.

If you turn up the RPM's a little you can probably achieve the above HP with out the turbo.

The 414 and 436 are basically the same engine as is the later 466. This engine was also used in IH's truck line with the 466 still in production today as a truck engine for Navastar.

They were great engines.

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dwm

09-09-2002 08:49:02

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Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to Jack, 09-08-2002 17:29:15

Up front, hey I like Olivers as much as the next guy on this forum, and I would go at, but carefully. If you're depending on your 1950-T for your support, I wouldn't crank it up too much. There have been many posts about the upgrades to the turbocharged 310, coming out in the later 18 and 1955s. I believe the 1950-T was the first to use this configuration, and it may not have these reliability upgrades. For the other tractors, it depends on what's been done to them. I don't know much about the Massey. The 966 could be wrenched up to some serious horsepower if tampered with. I've seen some D-21 ACs that look like they're pulling in road gear. Their turbocharged 426 is a stout horse. Just keep it in perspective. Good Luck.

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KEVIN M.

09-08-2002 18:49:30

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Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to Jack, 09-08-2002 17:29:15

I WAS TO APULL SAT. AND A 1950-T HAD AFULL PULL IT SOUNDED LIKE MUSIC WHEN HE TOOK OFF.

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WFE

09-08-2002 18:00:31

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Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to Jack, 09-08-2002 17:29:15

You should do quite well. I too pull a 1950-T that has been 'turned up' a bit with all the engine updates. With the 1950-T's good weight distribution and that Over/Under powershift, and that 310 turning 3000 rpm at about 145hp, I have done pretty good in farm stock classes. I can even beat IH 1066s on occasion; although they are 200 hp, they can't hook up like my T and don't have the 3 speed. So you should be able to compete quite well against 966s. A D21 could be tough though. I would say you certainly shouldn't be outclassed by any of the others. I do hope you have all the engine updates in this T. If so, go get 'em.

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09-08-2002 19:50:35

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Re: Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to WFE, 09-08-2002 18:00:31

What are all these engine updates that i hear people speaking of concerning the 310. Was thinking of building up one for my 880 and would like to know what all i should be doing besides the normal Thanks

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WFE

09-09-2002 21:05:44

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Re: Re: Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to Cookie, 09-08-2002 19:50:35

If you merely want a strong 880, the 310 can be used more or less in stock form, especially in the 1750/1755 configuration. At higher power levels, and if you are already planning to build one internally, here are some of the inexpensive upgrades to the 310, short of taking it to a professional engine builder to crank serious hp (200+hp).

-Install new updated rod bolts and only torque once.
-Install one-piece rod bushings.
-Have crankshaft, rods, pistonds, and flywheel balanced by machine shop. Some will question doing this to an in-line 6 cylinder, but insist. -Check block for line-bore.
-Keep oil cool during operation, with oil cooler or extra oil capacity. -Change oil frequently (50 hrs)

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Dsl

09-08-2002 17:48:27

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Re: 1950-T vs. 966 in reply to Jack, 09-08-2002 17:29:15

You'll never know til you try, and we'll never know til you tell us! Make Mr T flex his muscles...

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