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Frank

06-08-2002 04:14:38




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Looking for a 5.9L cummins, does anyone know where to find one? Also, I have read here about a kit to install one in an 1855 does anyone know where to get them?




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Merlin in Saint Paul

06-10-2002 19:49:24




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 Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Frank, 06-08-2002 04:14:38  
Hi, Frank! I work for Cummins NPower in Saint Paul. I ran a Re-Power shop during the 1990's, where we did about four dozen conversions. Although it will cost a bit more, I highly suggest purchasing a brand-new engine, and having it set to the correct specifications. It gets very expensive to convert a Dodge diesel engine over to a tractor application. The Cummins NPower distributor in De Pere, Wisconsin can hook you up with the correct engine, as well as the mounts. You will need an 1850 diesel front frame, or one from an early 2-105 (the later 2-105 frames do not have holes for the cast iron grille). I spend most of my time working on generator sets now, but I would love to get back into the re-power groove. It costs a bit of money, but nobody ever came back to me with any regrets, except to say "Gee, I wish we had done this sooner!" Best wishes to you. You can find Cummins NPower, DePere on the internet. Merlin
P.S. Our number in Saint Paul is 651-636-1000

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Shep

06-11-2002 05:33:36




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 Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Merlin in Saint Paul, 06-10-2002 19:49:24  
Merlin,
I am assuming that the engine mounts are the blocks that you mount on the frame rail. I have been making my own mounts for my repowers, what do the "Cummins" mounts cost???



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Merlin in Saint Paul

06-11-2002 20:12:28




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 Re: Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Shep, 06-11-2002 05:33:36  
Hi, Shep! The mounts from Cummins in De Pere cost me about $150. Well worth it, since they take so much time to build. They also have mounts for the 2050/2150, and the 2-135/2-155. As for the installation manual..... .. It would take me a couple of months to put together. I have step-by-step photos of many Oliver and White conversions, as well as some Deere and Farmall stuff. I had to learn a lot of things the hard way (ie expensive mistakes), and wish for others to avoid these troubles. Suffice it to say that no two Oliver installations are exactly the same. For instance, the 1855, of which we did about 16 or 17, was actually built in three separate designs. This becomes important, especially when dealing with hydraulic plumbing issues. I would have to take a leave from my job at Cummins to write this manual (not very likely), then hope that a couple of hundred Oliver/White folks would want to buy it, and not just bootleg the thing around on the 'net. The Internet is a grand thing, but it has made copywriting and patenting much more difficult. I tried to convince Cummins to get on board with re-powering here in Saint Paul, but they are reluctant to do so. Until I get the time to write a manual, I guess we will all just have to help each other out as best we can. Best wishes with your current project! Merlin

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m kuhns

06-11-2002 10:49:29




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 Re: Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Shep, 06-11-2002 05:33:36  
I assuming you can put a 5.9 in say a 1750 frame, nut what needs to be cut out or done to make it mount up right. We currently have a 310 out of a 1955 running about 130 Hp. It runs great, but the block was already welded up once by the injection pump from a thrown rod. I've been wanting to stick in a 5.9 for quite some time, and this is the tractor want to do it to. We put an 1850 frame on the 1955 and dropped a 354 turboed perkins in it. Any comments or procedures would be appreciated. I don't have an engine yet, but some day I'd like to try it.

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Shep

06-11-2002 12:38:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to m kuhns, 06-11-2002 10:49:29  
You have the right idea there, by putting the 1850 frame on you save youself a lot of work. Unfortunatly the 1655 I am working on now you cannot put the 1850 frame on, the frame is too big, so I am cutting and grinding the mounts out of it now. That is what you will have to do if you use the 1750 frame, you have to take the engine mounts out and cut the back bottom of the frame. There are lots of little things you need to do to make the conversion work a little better. I am trying to convence Merlin to write a "how to" book about converting these tractors, so I will not have to. Then you can just buy the book and be able to drop an engine it. But until then, just ask us some questions and we will try to help you get it put in correctly. Look throught the archives on this board for more info or check out my site, I have some conversion info on there.

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*Shep*- a question from j meyer

06-11-2002 17:42:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Shep, 06-11-2002 12:38:42  
Hi Shep, I was wondering what engine your putting in the 1655. Is it the 5.9 or 3.9 cummins?



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Shep

06-12-2002 05:09:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to *Shep*- a question from j meyer, 06-11-2002 17:42:18  
I havent bought an engine for it yet but I am thinking of putting a 5.9L Cummins with a small turbo into it. I only want the engine flywheel to be 100Hp or so, because I dont need too much power going through that small of a tractor. I drove a friends 1650 that had the 3.9 with a big turbo, ran good lots of power, balence of the tractor was all wrong, front tires slid and jumped and he said it didnt pull too good in the field. But he said it made a heck of a good tractor to the silage blower :-) Guess so.....

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jhon Barrett

02-01-2004 12:21:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Shep, 06-12-2002 05:09:26  
I have a 2-70 white and I was wondering if you can put turbo on it I heard there the same block as 310 so I went and broght a mandafold and a elbow but do you think I will have to re route my excalt pipe and how do you go about doing that?



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Mopower

06-09-2002 22:42:02




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 Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Frank, 06-08-2002 04:14:38  
Try E-bay there is one on there now. Try Hunley's tractor in (I think) Austin,In. They do repower on various tractors. Try to find a Industrial application engine (i.e.power unit, genset, irrigation pump) Automotive application will work you just won't have a "real" governor. You could try a Cummins dist. But you'll probably pay an arm and a leg for the engine.



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K.W.Greenwood

06-22-2002 08:30:46




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 Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Mopower, 06-09-2002 22:42:02  
Try Shueys in Ono Pennsylvania. www.shueys.com Lyndell says he's done around 25 cummings conversions.



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evielboweviel

06-09-2002 12:21:19




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 Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Frank, 06-08-2002 04:14:38  
look in the archives. Shep from VA has done this and posted info and pictures. He probably is busy trying to get crops in right now. Merlin also is a good source.



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Mike (WA)

06-10-2002 17:26:43




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 Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to evielboweviel, 06-09-2002 12:21:19  
My recollection of the past posts on Cummins conversion is that you have to get an 1850 "tub" (section of the frame that engine mounts on) to make the conversion without cutting the cast iron, etc. Also, you need the industrial engine rather than a "takeout" from a pickup.



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shane

06-08-2002 21:30:02




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 Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to Frank, 06-08-2002 04:14:38  
frank,cummins has those retro kits.



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Frank

06-09-2002 05:06:50




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 Re: Re: 5.9L cummins in reply to shane, 06-08-2002 21:30:02  
Shane, I sent them an e-mail to cummins webpage and they said they didn't know of one. Do you know where to ask or a part #?



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