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Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal

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Dan Cox

05-28-2002 07:16:32




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I just bought a 1955 Oliver Super 55 Gas and have a couple issues to fix before I can use it. First, I have a manifold leak (I hope just gaskets and not the manifold its self) near the rear two exhaust manifold ports. I am looking for the correct procedure for removing the exhaust manifold. It looks like I need to remove the intake manifold to get the exhaust manifold off.. Is this correct?

Second, I have an oil/hydraulic fluid leak from the front of the PTO clutch. There is "very light weight" oil leaking from the PTO inspection hole under the tractor. It appears to be coming from the center of the PTO clutch hub (PTO drive shaft) or somewhere above that area. The guy I bought it from told me he had just replaced both the Drive and PTO clutches.. Could there be a seal not seated right? Or is this another issue?

Finally, I have an I&T shop manual for the tractor. Manual number: O-11A. It does not appear to have complete information on the tractor.. such as manifold removal etc.. It there another manual I should get?

Thanks in advance!

Dan

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Dennis(SoCal)

05-28-2002 14:17:00




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 Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to Dan Cox, 05-28-2002 07:16:32  
The manifold comes off easy. There are about 4 or 6 nuts you take off and the exhaust and intake come off together. These nuts hold a wing type washer. They should be staring you in the face. Replace all the donut type gaskets and replace. Easy job.
Someone else will have to help you on the leak. Hopefully not a rear seal on the engine.



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Dan Cox

05-28-2002 21:35:27




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 Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to Dennis(SoCal), 05-28-2002 14:17:00  
Dennis,

Thank You for the info.. I got it off just as you described.. The problem now is my manifold is very pitted and may need replaced if I can't mill it down. I had a leak at the joint between it and the elbow section.. they will both need to be milled or replaced.. Also, the bolts that hold the intake to the exhaust are fused to the intake manifold and won't move. I have a source (Maibach's) for the intake and exhaust manifolds if needed, but NOT the elbow. Though a machine shop may be able to mill that down for me.

My issue now is to either buy new intake and exhaust manifolds or get them apart and just get the exhaust..

Here is my question:

Are the bolts that hold the intake to the exhaust manifold threded in BOTH manifolds or JUST in the exhaust. If it is NOT threded in the intake manifold, I can cut the heads off the bolts and then use a stud wrench to remove the remainder of the bolts from the exahust manifold after pulling them apart.. IF not, I either hope a machine shop can help me with the exhaust manifold or buy replacements.. The intake is fine though... that is what stinks about all this.

Thanks again,

Dan

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jake

05-29-2002 08:46:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to Dan Cox, 05-28-2002 21:35:27  
Bolts holding the manifolds together have threads at the bottom. before cutting off the head use an impact wrench set on low and it should come out easily. The leak at the PTO is another matter, the tractor must be split replacing the seals require removing the drive hub, getting the discs clean. The clutch assy has 1 or 2 seals the hub which has an O rig and a seal bolted to the trans casting. I made a tool for removing thr retaining ring eliminating the standard method of using a chisel, will send a scan of the drawing if needed, it's just a piece of black pipe with 2 tabs welded on but it does the job. Lotsa luck

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Dan Cox

09-01-2002 18:50:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to jake, 05-29-2002 08:46:10  
Jake and anyone who can help...

I took care of my Manifold issues finally by getting another exhaust manifold and having it and the intake machined. They sealed fine.. My remaining issue, the oil leak from the PTO area has now been pushed up on my fix list... This was prompted my PTO driving plates breaking while I was mowing with my finish mower a couple weeks ago. I need to split the tractor to fix them so I might as well fix the seals too. Jake, if you could send me that tool design I might need it. I also am not sure what I am in for replacing the driving plates in the PTO clutch. If anyone could give me a heads up I would appreciate it... As for the tractor split... that is my first issue.. I do not have an overhead crane as pictured in my I&T manual.. so I am trying to decide HOW I will split the tractor.. should I move the back away and hold the front in place with jack stands.. OR try to move the front away from the back??? What I have to work with is two 2 ton floor jacks, four 2 1/2 ton jack stands, a 15 foot tow strap and about 10 feet of chain in an 8 foot high garage stall with no real way to use the roof for any support... any ideas?? Sorry for the long post.. I just wanted to get it all out here.

Thanks!

Dan

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jake

09-02-2002 09:41:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to Dan Cox, 09-01-2002 18:50:39  
Do you have access to a cherry picker engine hoist? It has all the power and can roll the engine section forwards the 2 ft needed.



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Dan Cox

09-03-2002 06:32:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to jake, 09-02-2002 09:41:54  
Jake,

No I don't. I'm trying to figure out a way to do it...

Dan



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jake

09-02-2002 09:30:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to Dan Cox, 09-01-2002 18:50:39  
The tool for removing the hub is made from a 2ft section black pipe with a 2 in ID, braze 2 3/8 tabs to the outside, this will slip into the recesses in the nut. after removing the innards of the PTO replace the 3 bolt clutch housing, place a sturdy punch in the hole of the hub, support the pipe with a short 2x4 and using a pipe wrench the nut is east to remove and reinstalling 150 ft lbs. Replacing all seals is the only way to go, doing somthing twice to save a few bucks is foolish. I'll have a new scanner soon if you dont have a book I can help. Jake

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Dan Cox

09-03-2002 06:34:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to jake, 09-02-2002 09:30:55  
Jake,

Thanks for the info! I will see if I can find someone with a welder to help me make it.. I let you know if I need more detailed info...

Thanks again,

Dan



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Dan Cox

06-04-2002 06:02:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Super 55 PTO Cluch leak manifold removal in reply to jake, 05-29-2002 08:46:10  
Thank You all for your great help! I had to have the exhaust manifold milled and cleaned up along with the elbow. The machine shop screwed up and put too much of an angle on it and it wouldn't seal. The intake was good though.. I ended up finding an old truck head gasket and was able to use it to take up the gap created by the shop. I had to really crank it down though because I did't add anything to the intakes and had to do so for them to seal.
Last night we got her back together and it seems to be sealed.. at least I can't hear or see a leak... wonder if there is a way to tell for sure?
My next project will be the oil leak...

Thanks again guys,

Dan

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