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1600 Backhoe Loader Reverse-o-torque

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D13

05-28-2002 03:36:56




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Found a 1600 gas backhoe/loader. it appears to have a reverse-o-torque system in it.
1) Looking at it, the throttle is under the direction levers, so you step down to pick direction then pick up the throttle. Yes?
2) Any known probelms with the reverse-o-torque? Anything to look for? 3) Tractor is dirty and rough (cab missing all glass and one door, areas cut with torch, missing one side panel, etc). Tires hold air. Has industrial front. Price? I'm thinking $2500 for tractor, $1000 each for hoe and loader. Gets to $4500.

What'cha think?

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Bob M

05-29-2002 09:49:02




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 Re: 1600 Backhoe Loader Reverse-o-torque in reply to D13, 05-28-2002 03:36:56  
We've had an indentical 1600 for many years. Basically a good tractor, though I'd have much preferred straight gear drive over the Reverse-O-Torque (or "reverser") transmission.

You operate it by stepping on the appropriate direction pedal. Depressing a pedal part way engages the reverser in the direction you want to go - depressing the pedal farther advances the throttle. The small pedal to the right of the FWD pedal advances the throttle while leaving the reverser in neutral - for quick picking/dumping the loader, etc. The reverser pedal linkage is complex and requires proper (and frequent) adjustments in order to work correctly. It's also sensitive to worn shafts and loose bushings - as the parts wear the governor will not bring the motor up to full RPM with a direction pedal all the way down.

Stuff to look for:

1 - Obvious leaks from the reverser and it's cooling lines.

2 - "Burping" of tranny fluid out of the vent can on top of the reverser. Apparently it's normal for a bit of fluid to spit from the can now and then. A lot of fluid venting however means troubles.

3 - Quick pickup of forward and reverse. As the reverser gets worn it seems to require longer to engage after stepping on the pedal.

4 - Worn linkage. Put the main transmission in neutral then step all the way on one of the direction pedals. The tach should indicate at least 1,700 RPM or so. If slower, it means the linkage is worn or needs adjustment.

5 - Slipping. If possible, run the tractor on the road in 6th gear for a few minutes. Make sure the reverser doesn't begin to slip as it heats up.

6 - Shuttle the tractor back and forth a few times in several different gears to check for proper shifting, overheating, etc. Also check that the reverser temp gage works, and that it stays below the "SHIFT" mark on the scale after shuttling a while. DON'T use the reverser to quick change travel direction. Instead let off the pedal, use the brakes to come to a complete stop, THEN step on the pedal for the opposite direction. Note the reverser has a characteristic gear whine or whistle when moving in reverse - this is normal.

Hope some of this helps...

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Larry from Maryland

05-28-2002 16:21:56




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 Re: 1600 Backhoe Loader Reverse-o-torque in reply to D13, 05-28-2002 03:36:56  
The one thing to look for would be power steering all of the industrial olivers from this era that i have seen have had bad hydro-moters under the steering wheel.Its very expensive to fix unless you use all salvage parts.



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Don

05-28-2002 09:11:22




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 Re: 1600 Backhoe Loader Reverse-o-torque in reply to D13, 05-28-2002 03:36:56  
Try to pick the whole thing up for 2500-4000. It seems to be rather rough by your descriptions and so buy accordingly. Yes, a fully fixed up loader/backhoe like that can bring in a lot more $, but not always. If there isn't any history behind it, try even cheaper, it never hurts to try. How does the engine run? Burn any oil? Blue or black smoke? Rough idle/pickup?soimetimes you'd be amazed at how good of a deal you can get a tractor for.
Don

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