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Randy

04-17-2002 07:03:28

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a friend of mine has a 1650 oliver ,he is having problems with the steering,has replaced the hydraulic motor on the steering ,still no steering.although the tractor has plenty of hydraulic power ,the loader will lift the tractor up with ease.with the tractor in the air the sreering works,but not with the wheels on the ground.i have idedas on whats wrong ,but i have never worked with a oliver thank you randy

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Hal

04-18-2002 14:39:10

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Re: 1650 oliver in reply to Randy, 04-17-2002 07:03:28

If you turn the wheel and operate the 3-point at the same time, the diverter valve should give preference to the steering, ie. the steering should work but the 3-pt will slow down with a load on it. If it doesn't then I would suspect the diverter valve, otherwise check the things others have mentioned.

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Larry from Maryland

04-17-2002 09:28:16

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Re: 1650 oliver in reply to Randy, 04-17-2002 07:03:28

Have you checked the flow divider yet? Is the preasure relief valve in the flow divider blowing off too low?In my experince the flow dividers cause lots of problems.When you turn the steering all the way one way you should be able to hear the relief blow.Test your steering preasure and see if its correct.

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Sam M.

04-17-2002 07:40:41

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Re: 1650 oliver in reply to Randy, 04-17-2002 07:03:28

After the steering motor under the dash , lines take the hydraulic fluid up to a steering cylinder that is under the radiator and above the axle . The cylinder is located inside the front frame of the tractor underneath the grill and radiator . If seals inside the steering cylinder are bad it could cause fluid to go past and affect the steering making it weaker . A man that farms near my uncle had a 1650 with a similar problem and he had to rebuild the steering cylinder , replacing the seals inside . The rebuild corrected his problem . The job is not that hard but it requires removing the radiator and I think the cast iron grill on the 1650 .I have a ITT Manual on Olivers that shows an exploded view of the steering cylinder used on the 1650 and 1655 model tractors that I can fax to you if you will send me a fax number .

However , you could have another problem and that is the weight of the loader is affecting the steering . I have a 1555 Oliver with a Bush Hog loader on it that is probably too big for the tractor . The steering acts similar to what you describe on the 1650 (steering easy when front wheels off the ground , not so easy when the front wheels are on ground and weight of loader on them ) . When the tractor had a load on the front , like a heavy round bale of hay , it was difficult to steer unless you kept it moving slightly . We put a seperate pump (run by the PTO )and hydraulic tank on the loader which helped some and put high flotation tires on the front which also helped some . But the tractor still does not steer like it did before I put the loader on it .

Hope some of this helps .

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paul

04-17-2002 20:12:52

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Re: Re: 1650 oliver in reply to Sam M., 04-17-2002 07:40:41

the pressure relief valve on the hydraulic pump under the seat is broke take the the pto shaft before you lift that casting off there should be an elbow on the side of the pump chances are it will be broke

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hoot

04-17-2002 20:38:34

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Re: Re: Re: 1650 oliver in reply to paul, 04-17-2002 20:12:52

Check the pitman arm that attaches to the bottom of the steering motor. I have seen the splines shear and it acts just as you decribe.

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