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B.C.

03-03-1999 13:36:23

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The wife thinks she wants to go antique pulling with an Oliver of some sort. What model would be a decent choice, assuming a gas engine and a wide front end...77, Super 77, 88 or what? We'd also probably use it for baling.

I have never had much to do with Olivers, and have heard it said that some of them had trouble with ring gears.

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Test

05-29-1999 19:18:54

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Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to B.C., 03-03-1999 13:36:23

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05-29-1999 19:03:12

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Adam

03-04-1999 16:53:40

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Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to B.C., 03-03-1999 13:36:23

I pulled my 77 Diesel original every thing no modifications and did ok with it inexperence killed me I ran it in the stock 4,500 lb class against tractors that were not stock and lost. I ran it with all the cast wheels and the lift had 20 lb to spare. That 77 will pull a 3-16 plow in 3 rd. I have had alittle truble with ring and pinions I blew an brake housing off my 770 last spring Long story. For the most part they are truble free. They make a great bailer tractor because of there live power a neighbor uses his super 88 Diesel on an vemere round bailer my 77 handles an small square bailer with out problem. I sugest looking into an Diesel if you want to use it alot they run unbleavably cheap. The Gas powerd versions are exelent also, they just don't run as cheep.

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Cory Ziegler

03-03-1999 19:00:52

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Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to B.C., 03-03-1999 13:36:23

If you want to be competitive in pulling, the 88 or Super 88 is a top choice no matter what color your preference is. These tractors were class leaders in horsepower when they came out and have the most rugged, efficient transmissions compared to competitors' tractors in that time. And, they are relatively light in weight when you remove the belt pulley, hydraulics, cast rims, and fluid from the tires. These engines can also be tweaked to put out quite a bit more power if you are planning to be real competitive because there are more cheating parts for John Deeres than any other manufacturer, but you've got to pay for them. You might as well start out with a tractor to begin with rather than try to make a tractor out of one of those two-hole pieces of crap. Go with an Oliver. The 77/Super 77 is also an excellent choice, but the power to weight ratio lies in favor of the 88/Super 88. A ring gear problem is something I've never heard about Olivers. Bull gears, however, were a minor problem in the Super 99s, 990s, 1900s, 1950s, etc. but only after many hours in the field. The Fleetline 77/88 rear ends are the best for tractor pulling. Good choice, and good luck. You won't be disappointed.

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Tom

03-03-1999 20:53:58

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Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to Cory Ziegler, 03-03-1999 19:00:52

B.C. CORY is right go with the 88/super88,other pullers have told me that it will handel 600hp without a problem.The only OLIVERS that have had a rearend problems were ones that were run low or out of oil,say what you will about other colors but the Oliver rear is pretty stout.My dad watched a 88 pull withen 2feet of a 2255 till the frame broke.Look on page 10 at the "what happened".Not sure but it looks like the tractor.Keep in mind that a 2255 runs over 150hp and 13000 pounds!

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Linda Carlson

03-29-2000 13:40:17

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Re: Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to Tom, 03-03-1999 20:53:58

I'm asking again - does anyone out there have any information regarding oil pressure on an Oliver 88? My father-in-law is restoring one that has been the family for years but is having problems getting oil to the top end (I hope you guys understand that!!!). Anyway, there is oil pressure,althought it's low. The other question I had is, which head bolt does the oil come up through? I told dad that I could find out the information he needed on this site, don't let me down. Thanks for any and all help - I've enjoyed reading through the messages.

Linda

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Tom

03-03-1999 21:07:21

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Re: Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to Tom, 03-03-1999 20:53:58

Sorry picture is now on page 11 and titled 88 broke in half.Also think it had a 310 waukesha guess it sounded like a helicopter,it spun 38" tires in third.

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B.C.

03-05-1999 08:03:10

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to Tom, 03-03-1999 21:07:21

Thanks for the advice, all. The pull we went to that got the notion started was in fact dominated by Olivers. I think the most of them were gas engined 88's or Super 88's.

Many moons ago, when I was growing up in central Wisconsin, Oliver people were tended to be looked upon as extremists. I mean, what would you need all that horsepower for anyway? One of our neighbors at the time got a gas 66 which he used on his baler. It was a nicer machine to drive and operate than the Farmall H he had been using.

I wouldn't have guessed that the diesels would be cheaper to buy. I would assume that parts for the injection system are still available?

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Adam

03-06-1999 15:51:18

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to B.C., 03-05-1999 08:03:10

Parts are still available central fuel injection has rebuilt pumps for $600 and injectors are not a problem. Diesels may or may not be cheaper I was refering to the fuel effeciency as the below post stated.

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Brian C

03-07-1999 19:16:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to Adam , 03-06-1999 15:51:18

Is there a noticeable difference in pulling ability between gas or diesel in the 88's/Super 88's?

As a Massey type, I've noticed they used to use diesels that were a little more powerful than the gas engines, at least in the 35/50 size machines. You'll notice that's a few notches short of the Olivers under discussion.

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Adam

03-07-1999 20:55:43

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to Brian C, 03-07-1999 19:16:47

I don't know for sure but I would say my 77 Diesel is more powerful than the gas one dad has. I haven't seen a gas super 88 in action yet as 90% of them are diesels around here how ever there is a few gas 88's they do about the same as the diesels both win alot of pulls. Most of the pulls around here are 1952 or older so I have yet to see a super pull.

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Tom

03-05-1999 19:46:40

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver Advice Wanted in reply to B.C., 03-05-1999 08:03:10

The diesels are not cheaper,they run cheaper than gas as in taking less fuel.I think you might of misunderstood.

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