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Mike

03-20-2002 20:08:46




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Does anybody have knowledge and or tech. info. on the differences between a 1855 & a 1955 other than horsepower, and any trouble either was known for other than the early models having engine problems? Thanks, Mike.




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COWBOY

03-23-2002 16:51:33




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 Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to Mike, 03-20-2002 20:08:46  
The 1855 had the same turbo as the 1955,...

The later 1855's had the same rear axle (Heavier) as the 1955's, But the earlier 1955's or 1855's had different axles and housings.,...

The rear axle housings were originally taperad down to a round end,.. and the late ones, Both 1855's and 1955's had the same rear axles as the 2-105 Whites,...

I looked at mine (It is a 1974 model year),.. and the axle housing doesn't even come close to what the parts books for the 1855 and 1955 show. The parts books I have are 1971 year and early 1974 years.

I stopped at a dealer and talked to the old fella (Olive Knowledge beyond belief) anyway, he said they used the 2-105 rear axles the last 2 years of production. The housings are square!!! made them a lot stronger for very heavy work.

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Mike

03-23-2002 21:01:40




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 Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to COWBOY, 03-23-2002 16:51:33  
Thanks Cowboy for the additional info. Anything else you think might be helpfull wil be greatly appreciated. The sale I'm going to is Tues. March 26th. If the condition and price is right I'll come home with an 1855 or a 1955. I hope it will be the 1955. I'll keep you posted as to how things turn out. Thanks, Mike.



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COWBOY

03-24-2002 06:48:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to Mike, 03-23-2002 21:01:40  
Well,.. GOOD LUCK,....

One thing you may want to consider if you do buy a 1855 or 1955,.. Is to check the Oil Filter for particles of any kind. If you do find any matal flakes,... then pull the pan, and replace all the bearings and especially the Piston Pin Bushings with the new 1 piece ones. Save the motor before it blows!

Also, buy the one that has the integral Oil Cooler on the block if possible. Makes it worth a lot more,.. And the later date ones (1974 and 1975 years) are better tractors.

You stand a better chance of keeping the engine intact that way.

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Mike

03-26-2002 19:08:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to COWBOY, 03-24-2002 06:48:13  
Hey Cowboy, Got back from the sale. Did'nt buy anything. All of the equipment was some of the roughest I've seen in quite a while. The 1955 was a 1969, and the 1855 was a 1970. There was a good bit of oil leaking from under the 1955, rear main was one spot, had the tapered down axle housings, was missing a few things from the dash, the over under shift lever was'nt working, missing a few otheritems as well. Tilt steering lock was'nt working on the 1855, oil leaking pretty bad somewhere in front of engine, also missing a few things from dash, this one had the 2-105 rear housing with slightly bigger axles, both needed some tin work and missing peices replaced, both needed paint jobs. I just did'nt have a good feeling about either one. My freinds who went with me agreed that it was best that someone else took these tractors home. One of whom is an Oliver colector and farmer like me. 1955 brought $3200, 1855 brought $2200. Let me know what you think. I'm still looking. Mike.

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COWBOY

03-21-2002 06:04:27




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 Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to Mike, 03-20-2002 20:08:46  
The 1955 was the same as the 1855 except for the following differences:

1955 had a larger head on the diesel injection pump so it delivered more fuel the the cylinders. IE: More Horsepower.

The diesel head had a different casting number, and had a slightly larger combustion chamber than the 1855. 1955 had a slightly lower compression ratio.

The 1955 had 3 brake discs per side, as the 1855 only had 2 brake discs per side.

The 1955 was equipt with a #6000 lb 3 pt hitch. It was an option on the 1855, otherwise the 1855 had the #4000 3 pt hitch.

The 1955 had the updated 310 Waukasha engine with the integral Oil cooler, only the later (1974-75) 1855 models had this. Early 1855's didn't.

The 1955 was available only in diesel, the 1855's were available either gas or diesel.

Other than that, the other options were available on either model. I may of missed some things, but these are the basic differences.

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Mike

03-21-2002 19:30:33




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 Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to COWBOY, 03-21-2002 06:04:27  
Thank you very much Cowboy & Mike O for the info. It's been very helpfull. I'm going to a sale where there are both an 1855 & 1955. I could use a second higher horsepower tractor, and since we used to own an 1855 several years ago, an early one that self destroyed it's engine, I was curious if there were any differences. Now I'll know more on how much to bid. Thanks again guys, Mike.



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MikeO

03-21-2002 14:36:08




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 Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to COWBOY, 03-21-2002 06:04:27  
One other difference we noted, the rear axle are larger and heavier on our 1955 than our 1855. This may go along with the heavier 3pt hitch. We actually broke the axle off our 1955 and figured we would just bolt up an axle from a junked 1855. Not even close.



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Mike

03-21-2002 19:50:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to MikeO, 03-21-2002 14:36:08  
Two more questions, did the 1955 come standard with a 540 PTO or a 1000 PTO. Did either have trouble with the rear ends? Thanks. Mike.



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COWBOY

03-22-2002 07:08:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to Mike, 03-21-2002 19:50:01  
The 1855 came with either 540, or 1000, or one that can be changed be sliding a shaft and changing the PTO output shaft.

The later (Changable PTO) was the most common on Farm, "Row Crop" models.

I believe the 1955 had the same offered,...



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Bill

03-22-2002 08:53:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to COWBOY, 03-22-2002 07:08:37  
Did the 1855 have a turbo like the 1955?



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allan

03-23-2002 15:21:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Info. on 1855 1955 in reply to Bill, 03-22-2002 08:53:36  
yes!



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