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Front Axle Pivot Pin; Oliver 550

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Bob Stites

01-23-2002 19:23:00




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I'm having trouble removing the front axle pivot pin on my Oliver 550. For some reason there is nothing in the Front End section my service manual on the 550 or any other "xx0" models, which differ in that the front axle is braced by long stay rods attached to the frame in ball joints. I know the pin is not frozen because I can rotate it a little in each direction, and can even move the pin in and out about a quarter of an inch--but something is holding it so strongly my puller won't budge it. (I did take out the set screw). If anyone has pulled a 550 pivot pin and can give me a tip, I'd be very grateful.

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Mike B

01-30-2002 18:30:10




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 Re: Front Axle Pivot Pin; Oliver 550 in reply to Bob Stites, 01-23-2002 19:23:00  
Bob,

I have a 550 with a 558 loader with virtually the same symptoms and cure (a failed weld). I haven't gotten the courage up to tackle it yet, but I sure would appreciate you sharing your success when you finally beat it.

Remember, it is only a machine, it has no emotions, there are reasons why they work and don't work... I sometimes mumble this to myself with some colorful other words when an apparently simple task like you are attempting turns into a tough battle.

Good luck!
Mike

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Jake

01-27-2002 04:59:48




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 Re: Front Axle Pivot Pin; Oliver 550 in reply to Bob Stites, 01-23-2002 19:23:00  
When you removed the set screw are you talking about the bolt that locks the pivot pin in place? This is the bolt accessed from the bottom and is either 1/2 or 5/8" and with you being able to move the shaft that much the bolt [or portion of a broken bolt found when loaders are involved] would permit this. Also with this much free play there is nothing to stop the pin from coming out umless someone put a welding bead on the rear to prevent the pin falling out.[foung one of those] Good luck

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Jake

01-27-2002 05:18:34




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 Re: Re: Front Axle Pivot Pin; Oliver 550 in reply to Jake, 01-27-2002 04:59:48  
Bob that hardened bolt is the retaining bolt. The hole in the front is for pulling the shaft out. The normal way the pin is pulled AFTER removing the locking bolt is by using a pipe coupling, screwing a 1/2 bolt and washer to draw the pin out. The bolt that you are drilling is the locking bolt which is either still in or broken off on the bottom.



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Paul Stanley

01-23-2002 22:05:10




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 Re: Front Axle Pivot Pin; Oliver 550 in reply to Bob Stites, 01-23-2002 19:23:00  
That came up over a year ago. Someone else was having a hard time with theirs. They used heat, penatrating oil, etc.,,, can't remember what they finally did to get it out. One thing I found in the archives is that pin is not strait. It has a 5� angle so that the top of the front axle is closer t o the engine than the bottom. Mabybe there is some stress on the axle because of the tension and you have to support it. Ask Chris Losey over at the Oliver Gang web page. He did his before.

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Bob Stites

01-25-2002 18:59:52




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 Re: Re: Front Axle Pivot Pin; Oliver 550 in reply to Paul Stanley, 01-23-2002 22:05:10  
Thanks Paul. For your information, I sent the following message to Chis Losey, which includes some facts I didn't have until today. I appreciate your help.

(To Chris Losey) I have been referred to you for advice on this problem. Following is a message I posted on the "Yesterday's Tractors" website, with a reply that came in shortly afterward. "I'm having trouble removing the front axle pivot pin on my Oliver 550. For some reason there is nothing in the Front End section my service manual on the 550 or any other "xx0" models, which differ in that the front axle is braced by long stay rods attached to the frame in ball joints. I know the pin is not frozen because I can rotate it a little in each direction, and can even move the pin in and out about a quarter of an inch--but something is holding it so strongly my puller won't budge it. (I did take out the set screw). If anyone has pulled a 550 pivot pin and can give me a tip, I'd be very grateful." "That came up over a year ago. Someone else was having a hard time with theirs. They used heat, penatrating oil, etc.,,, can't remember what they finally did to get it out. One thing I found in the archives is that pin is not strait. It has a 5� angle so that the top of the front axle is closer t o the engine than the bottom. Mabybe there is some stress on the axle because of the tension and you have to support it. Ask Chris Losey over at the Oliver Gang web page. He did his before." Today I learned a little more. The set screw in the Parts Manual appears to have a smaller diameter on its end, perhaps a half inch long. Today, I took another look into the hole and found that there is something in there--probably the small diameter part of the set screw which has broken off. I tried to drill it for an Easy Out, but my drill won't touch it--it's probably hardened. I used a center punch to make a dimple fot the drill bit, and moved the piece a little deeper into the hole, to a section that does not appear to be threaded. I'm guessing the tractor took a bad hit to the front axle before I got it. The boss which is supposed to be welded on the front side in the center of the axle had broken loose, and someone tried to weld it to the front frame. It didn't hold, and that is my whole reason for wanting to get the pivot pin out. The boss rotated, rubbed and damaged the hydraulic pump shaft for my Oliver 588 loader. I figure the tip of the set screw broke off when the boss did. So here I am. I need to re-attach the boss, but can't get the axle out because the pivot pin is locked by a broken piece of the set screw, and I can't find a way to remove it. If all else fails I can have the boss welded to the axle without taking it off, but I want to inspect for further damage. Can you give me any advice? Thanks, Bob [email protected]

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