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Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil

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John

11-27-2001 10:35:50




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I have a chance to buy an 1855 with a cab that has water in the engine oil. The tractor has set for 12 years. The owner stated that the tractor had been overhauled two years before that. He said that he noticed the water in the oil so he drove it straight to the shed and shut it off and hasnt ran it since. He said that there was no knocking or any sounds. The paint is in real good condition. Anything else I should do once I get it like changing all oils. I can buy the tractor for $1500.00. Any info is greatly appreciated.

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WFE

12-02-2001 09:28:26




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 Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to John, 11-27-2001 10:35:50  
Save the 310 Waukesha!! I agree with all the diagnoses presented thus far that the tractor probably needs new sleeve seals. It may also need new sleeves-a visual inspection of them removed will tell you. All diesel engines suffer from a phenomenon known as electrolysis, in which the intense energy released in combustion vibrates all related components, especially sleeves. To make a long story short, this leads to sleeve pitting, fatigue, and cracking if left unchecked. Today we have coolant filters on engines that release coolant conditioners designed to stop or inhibit this process from ruining sleeves. But the 310 engine in the 1855 did not have a coolant filter so one has to be quite diligent about adding supplemental coolant conditioners at regular intervals.

If the owner said the engine wasn't knocking, you should be in good shape. For $1500, BUY IT!! Then rebuild the 310 keeping the following in mind:

-Install one-piece wrist pin bushings provided in overhaul kit or get them through AGCO
-Install new, stronger, connecting rod capscrews with hardened washers provided, also through AGCO. Torque them only once and DO NOT REUSE after any have been torqued. Applying Loctite to the threads is also a good idea, although not necessary.
-Have the shop that grinds or at least polishes your crankshaft balance it as well. They will need the pistons, rods, crank, flywheel, dampener. This will help the engine tremendously.
-Make sure you follow the above procedures relating to the engine coolant or have a coolant filter base installed
-Beginning with 1974 production 1855s, the 310 engine used the same block as the 1955, which had the oil cooler. Check to see that you have this oil cooler on the right hand side of the block. If you do not, then enlarge the oil pan to hold an additional gallon of oil or just don't work it too hard in hot weather. In either case, change engine oil every 50 hours, not 100 as the manual states. The 310 doesn't hold much oil so keep it in good, fresh condition.

These are the major things. With these, the original 310 engine is an outstanding performer, in power, economy, and durability. Good find!

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WFE

12-02-2001 09:27:41




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 Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to John, 11-27-2001 10:35:50  
Save the 310 Waukesha!! I agree with all the diagnoses presented thus far that the tractor probably needs new sleeve seals. It may also need new sleeves-a visual inspection of them removed will tell you. All diesel engines suffer from a phenomenon known as electrolysis, in which the intense energy released in combustion vibrates all related components, especially sleeves. To make a long story short, this leads to sleeve pitting, fatigue, and cracking if left unchecked. Today we have coolant filters on engines that release coolant conditioners designed to stop or inhibit this process from ruining sleeves. But the 310 engine in the 1855 did not have a coolant filter so one has to be quite diligent about adding supplemental coolant conditioners at regular intervals.

If the owner said the engine wasn't knocking, you should be in good shape. For $1500, BUY IT!! Then rebuild the 310 keeping the following in mind:

-Install one-piece wrist pin bushings provided in overhaul kit or get them through AGCO
-Install new, stronger, connecting rod capscrews with hardened washers provided, also through AGCO. Torque them only once and DO NOT REUSE after any have been torqued. Applying Loctite to the threads is also a good idea, although not necessary.
-Have the shop that grinds or at least polishes your crankshaft balance it as well. They will need the pistons, rods, crank, flywheel, dampener. This will help the engine tremendously.
-Make sure you follow the above procedures relating to the engine coolant or have a coolant filter base installed
-Beginning with 1974 production 1855s, the 310 engine used the same block as the 1955, which had the oil cooler. Check to see that you have this oil cooler on the right hand side of the block. If you do not, then enlarge the oil pan to hold an additional gallon of oil or just don't work it too hard in hot weather. In either case, change engine oil every 50 hours, not 100 as the manual states. The 310 doesn't hold much oil so keep it in good, fresh condition.

These are the major things. With these, the original 310 engine is an outstanding performer, in power, economy, and durability. Good find!

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Wrenchbender

11-27-2001 19:04:05




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 Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to John, 11-27-2001 10:35:50  
Sounds like a deal to me! Put new O-rings on the sleeves, check the crank for wear and maybe some new rod and main bearings. Good luck, WB.



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Jerry B

11-28-2001 07:19:53




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 Re: Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to Wrenchbender, 11-27-2001 19:04:05  
Hey WB..email me. I still need that intake manifold.
Jerry b



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hank

11-27-2001 17:03:54




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 Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to John, 11-27-2001 10:35:50  
sounds like another one of those waukesha 310's giving you headaches. Put a 5.9 cummins in it.



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Shep ... I agree

11-30-2001 10:39:24




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 Re: Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to hank, 11-27-2001 17:03:54  
Buy it cheap and put a Cummins engine in it, it will be well worth your time and money.



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jethro

11-27-2001 13:53:24




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 Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to John, 11-27-2001 10:35:50  
I had this problem once too. it is probly just the sleve seals. that is all we had to do with ours, it this is the problem make sure you have the crank turned since there has been water on it.



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John

11-27-2001 12:27:11




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 Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to John, 11-27-2001 10:35:50  
I forgot to state that it is an 1855 with a diesel engine.



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JDP

11-27-2001 15:38:35




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 Re: Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to John, 11-27-2001 12:27:11  
Which diesel engine does it have? Is it a Perkins 6-354?



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Allan

11-30-2001 18:19:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver 1855 water in the engine oil in reply to JDP, 11-27-2001 15:38:35  
No. The 1855 has the pesky 310 Waukeshau!



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