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david

10-25-2001 22:57:57




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I found an 88 row crop but it is the old style with a factory adjustable wide front. Is this a rare tractor? I've never seen one like it at shows around the southeast. I can probably get it for a couple hundred bucks, but it is pretty well gone. The block is cracked, parts of the sheetmetal missing,been sitting about 30yrs. I just want to know if it would be worth restoring. Thanks, David




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Don L.

10-28-2001 07:30:33




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 Re: early style 88 in reply to david, 10-25-2001 22:57:57  
Yesterday my friend offered me Most of the tin work for an old style 88, all except the grill inserts. It is in VERY nice painted cond, not rusty and thin. I give this set very high marks for quality, not mint, but close. Hood, 4 pc side panels, grill shell,center strip,rad flip cover $900.00
phone 507 433 0073am best
Don L.



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Jerry B

10-31-2001 06:09:06




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 Re: Re: early style 88 in reply to Don L., 10-28-2001 07:30:33  
Don,
As per our conversation this morning, I am leaving you my email address here.
thanks,
Jerry Benham



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Jeff

10-26-2001 23:29:08




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 Re: early style 88 in reply to david, 10-25-2001 22:57:57  
David, two other things to check is see what side the PTO engagement lever is on. Early ones started off with the lever on the left, and then they switched to the right. There is a possibility of the owners switching them to the newer style however. Also, check the rear wheel hubs to see how many U-bolts hold the hub. If it is 2, it is an early tractor.



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dkaiser

10-27-2001 15:02:01




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 Re: Re: early style 88 in reply to Jeff, 10-26-2001 23:29:08  
There also was a difference in the gear shifters. On the '47 models you had to remover the entire power lift assembly to remove the gear shifter. The '48 old style's were change so the shifter could be removed by two bolts like the later tractors. You don't see a whole lot of these tractors with the wide fronts, but you have to watch since these wide fronts were cast iron you see a lot of them are cracked. I don't know how much of the tin is similar. You can buy reproduction side panels and side curtains, but the hood and definately the nose piece may be hard to come by. I've also heard that the dash on these tractors is different due to the fact that the shift pattern is not placed on the dash, but we couldn't see a difference in ours and a spare super 88 dash we have laying around. The block on these tractors I believe is different too. The old style tractors should have frost plugs in the blocks where the newer tractors do not, at least not that I've seen. If you can get this tractor cheap you definately can't go wrong, good luck.

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Dennis(SoCal)

10-26-2001 08:49:52




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 Re: early style 88 in reply to david, 10-25-2001 22:57:57  
The "old style" 88 is becoming very collectible. If you can get it for a couple hundred bucks buy it, especially with the wide front. The old style has the 80 grille rather than the normal 88 grille. Collectors in the midwest will grab it if you want to turn it around and sell it rather than restore it. Good luck.



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Jerry B

10-26-2001 06:42:10




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 Re: early style 88 in reply to david, 10-25-2001 22:57:57  
By "old Style" do you mean it looks like an Oliver 70 or just like a reagular 88 but with a wide front end?



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david

10-26-2001 10:16:24




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 Re: Re: early style 88 in reply to Jerry B, 10-26-2001 06:42:10  
Jerry, It looks like an 80 all over except it has 88 on the data plate on the right side frame sitting on the tractor. I've looked in all of my books and found very little info on these models. In an Oliver book it called them pre-run 88's made in 47. Does this sound right? What would you estimate the production #'s to be? In 47 it only showed 300 and something built. Thanks, David



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Lee

10-26-2001 11:17:11




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 Re: Re: Re: early style 88 in reply to david, 10-26-2001 10:16:24  
There were around 1300 of them built. The grill looks like the later model 70's.



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Jerry B

10-26-2001 19:57:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: early style 88 in reply to Lee , 10-26-2001 11:17:11  
Lee,
That sounds about right best as I can recall.



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Zeus

10-27-2001 09:43:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: early style 88 in reply to Jerry B, 10-26-2001 19:57:39  
There is an error is some of the previous postings. The Oliver "80" tractor was never styled. Only the 60 and 70 tractors were styled. Thus, the 1947 (early) 88 cannot look like the 80 in styling; it does have the same styling as the 70 and 60 models, however. In 1948 it was restyled to match the Fleetline 66 and 77 models that had just been introduced.



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Geoffrey Heck

10-27-2001 18:40:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: early style 88 in reply to Zeus, 10-27-2001 09:43:00  
I agree completly with Zeus in that the 80'swere never styled. If it's an old style 88 it will look like a 60 or 70. As a matter of fact most 80 parts don't work as I know of. It was just a new 18-27 Oliver/Hart-Parr. Especially the engine and sheet matal are different. The engine makes up part of the frame on an 80.

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