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How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard?

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Hans Garry

08-21-2001 11:12:00




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Hi everyone,

Again thanks to everyone who has been helping me. I posted a message "More numbers on my Oliver" that I still need more help with.

Here are the steps I am taking and sure would appreciate someone confirming that I am on the right track (or not).

Step 1. Identify the tractor model and year (done, 1948 60 Standard)

Step 2. Confirm engine type/model (I know it's a 4 cyl gas, that's it)

Step 3. Try to "turn over" engine by hand to ensure that the engine is not seized (If it is seized, I will deal with that separately, if not, proceed to "Step 4")

Step 4. Once engine ID is confirmed. a)try to locate a starter (as I mentioned in my first post, there is a hole where the starter should be and I have looked around the property to see if I could find the starter to have it rebuilt, but no luck, so I will need a replacement). b)Get a manual for the tractor and engine.

Step 5. Determine correct spark plugs, spark plug wire set, distributor cap, points, etc., replace and set up to spec.

Step 6. a)Determine correct oil. Do oil change. b)Drain gas tank and fuel line. If there is a filter, clean or replace it. Fill tank with new gas. Ensure fuel deliver system is working. c)Check and repair cooling system, replace worn or broken belts.

Step 7. Connect battery. Ensure spark/fuel/air intake/exhuast/cooling systems are all in basic working order. HAVE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER AT THE READY!!!!

Step 8. Try cranking. (Again, depending on what happens during this step will determine what happens next. It may be possible that I should post prior to trying Step 8 where memorial donations should be sent ;)

So? What do ya think?

Best regards,
Hans Garry

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Ben Haag

02-26-2002 16:01:37




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 Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Hans Garry, 08-21-2001 11:12:00  
i have 3 oliver 60's and i know if u do take a compression test before firing it up, and the readings are bad, squirt some oil in the cylinders, then the next morning check it again, if it is the same, its good because if it is the same, it means the rings are good, it is sjsut a the valves are stuck open... i just did this on our farmall A..



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MCL in IN

08-23-2001 06:58:46




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 Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Hans Garry, 08-21-2001 11:12:00  
60 and 70 starters will interchange. I know because I have done it. I had one on my 70 rebuilt and then decided to sell it. So I swapped starters with the 60 to keep the rebuilt one. Is that mean or not?



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Hans Garry

08-23-2001 10:04:42




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 Re: Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to MCL in IN, 08-23-2001 06:58:46  
Hi MCL,

Thank for the information. I really appreciate your help and the help I have received from others in this forum.

Best regards,
Hans Garry



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John P.

08-23-2001 03:11:14




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 Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Hans Garry, 08-21-2001 11:12:00  
Central Tractor lists a rebuilt starter for the 60 in their catalog for $104.99 without core.



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Hans Garry

08-23-2001 10:06:16




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 Re: Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to John P., 08-23-2001 03:11:14  
Hi John,

That is excellent news. Now I know exactly where to get one. Thanks for your help.

Best regards,
Hans Garry



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Gary

08-22-2001 17:02:58




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 Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Hans Garry, 08-21-2001 11:12:00  
The starter on a 60 is all by itself. The 66 77 or 88 will not fit because it has 3 bolts instead of 2 The 70 starter has 2 bolt pattern but I don' think it will fit because it is larger in diameter.



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Hans Garry

08-23-2001 10:08:39




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 Re: Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Gary, 08-22-2001 17:02:58  
Hi Gary,

Thanks for the information. MCL posted that he actually did swap out the 60 and 70 starters. But John posted where I could get a rebuilt.

I have yet to be able to move to my new property so I don't know if the engine is any good yet. But as soon as I find out I now have the information that I need to get the starter.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards,
Hans Garry



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Mike M (WA)

08-22-2001 08:29:31




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 Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Hans Garry, 08-21-2001 11:12:00  
I'd add another chore to step 6- remove the fuel tank, and, with a good light source, look inside to ensure that there isn't a lot of rust and scale. Slosh some gas or solvent around and pour it into a clean white plastic bucket so you can see how dirty it is (or isn't). Even if it looks OK, there's usually some crud that ends up in the carburetor, then necessitating disassembly and cleaning/ rebuilding.

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Hans Garry

08-22-2001 09:55:08




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 Re: Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Mike M (WA), 08-22-2001 08:29:31  
Hi Mike,

Thanks for the information. I figured I would have to do that after shining a flashlight into the gas tank and seeing sticks in there, yup I said sticks.

Best regards,
Hans Garry



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Cowboy Bill Watts

08-22-2001 05:13:06




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 Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Hans Garry, 08-21-2001 11:12:00  
hans, i know a guy that's got a ferguson TO-30. has the same starter on it as my oliver 60 used to have and my oliver 77 currently has.

point is, that starter is fairly generic. go to an agco/allis dealer and see that they can do for you.

beware -- i'd say you couldn't touch one for under $100. if you're looking cheap and rebuild, find a junk yard.



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Hans Garry

08-22-2001 09:53:18




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 Re: Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Cowboy Bill Watts, 08-22-2001 05:13:06  
Bill,

Thank you thank you thank you.

That is exactly the information I was looking for.

Best regards,
Hans Garry



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Dean

08-21-2001 11:30:40




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 Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Hans Garry, 08-21-2001 11:12:00  
You've put a lot of thought into this. Let me add step 4c. Before you try to fire it up, do a compression test on all 4 cylinders. Regardless of how bad or good the numbers are, if they are all about the same, then proceed on with step 5. If one or two of the compression readings are way out of whack, the engine is going to have to come apart. The idea is to not do any (more) damage.

Let us know how it goes!

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Hans Garry

08-21-2001 13:05:11




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 Re: Re: How would I get a starter for a '48 60 Standard? in reply to Dean, 08-21-2001 11:30:40  
Hi Dean,

Thanks, that is a great suggestion. I will add that to the list as I wouldn't want to do any more damage if one or two are low/high.

Best regards,
Hans Garry



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