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550 Industrial front hydro pump

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Jim Nantz

06-19-2001 06:23:01




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I just completed a split on my 550 industrial to clean, inspect and adjust the PTO clutch. This tractor has the Oliver loader with the hydro oil tank mounted in front of the grill, and a pump under it driven by a shaft from the engine. The pump coupling looks like 2 chain sprockets connected by a double roller chain. The sprockets show a great deal of wear to their teeth. Is this coupling an Oliver specific part, or could I get one from any good AG. parts dealer?

Thanks for any advice you could give.

By the way, the tractor is back together and runs great (without the loader yet). I learned alot about the "overcenter" engagement of the PTO clutch from this exercise. It took the better part of one day to remove the loader and split the tractor, and the better part of the next day to clean and degrease the clutch and put it back together. Thats me, by myself. My shop has pneumatic tools, and an overhead I-beam, trolly and chainfall. Ask me someday about double locking set-screws.

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John P.

06-19-2001 09:38:12




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 Re: 550 Industrial front hydro pump in reply to Jim Nantz, 06-19-2001 06:23:01  
Hi, I just went through what you are describing on my Super 55. I took mine into an industrial supply house and got two new gears and the proper chain cut to length and assembled back onto the gears while I waited. It was good quality stuff too. If you would like the phone number for the place I used let me know.



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Jim Nantz

06-20-2001 04:46:08




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 Re: Re: 550 Industrial front hydro pump in reply to John P., 06-19-2001 09:38:12  
John,
Thanks for the suggestion. I had already tried our local Tractor Supply store, but their couplings have rubber cushions and are not connected to each other. Their sprockets needed to be welded to a hub, and they don't handle double chain. I'll check around at a local supply house, and see what they can do.



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Mike M (WA)

06-20-2001 08:22:26




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 Re: Re: Re: 550 Industrial front hydro pump in reply to Jim Nantz, 06-20-2001 04:46:08  
I put a loader on a 550, using a front pump and the rubber-cushioned coupling you described. I pulled the front pulley from the engine, and had a machine shop drill holes in the pulley hub to match the holes in the coupler, and bolted it on. Everything runs very smoothly, and I am very happy with the setup. Probably much quieter than the double chain sprocket setup.



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Jim Nantz

06-20-2001 09:22:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 550 Industrial front hydro pump in reply to Mike M (WA), 06-20-2001 08:22:26  
Mike,

Thanks for the suggestion. That would work well for a new installation, or if I can't find a replacement double chain coupling.

On the factory setup, the pump drive shaft also has a cushioned coupling on the engine front pulley. The drive shaft is splined to slide into this coupling, and "floats" there, so that the shaft can move axially front to rear. This tractor pulley coupling, being cushioned absorbs any torque shock and is also tolerant of minor misalignment between the motor and pump, allowing the double chain coupling on the pump end to be rigid. (A clever bit of engineering design.) There is no real need for two cushioned couplings with this set-up, and, in fact, if the shaft coming out of the pump were 14" long and splined, the double chain coupling would not be necessary at all, since to remove the pump, the splined end of the shaft simply slides out of the engine pulley coupling.

I prefer to keep my set-up as stock as possible, but your suggestion was certainly a good one and I'll keep it in mind, if I can't find the parts I need.

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John P.

06-20-2001 12:59:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 550 Industrial front hydro pump in reply to Jim Nantz, 06-20-2001 09:22:33  
Hi Jim, my Super 55 has the exact same arrangement and the gears I put on did not have to be welded and run very smoothily. Don't lose your metal bushings that go into the rubber bushings that the 4 bolts go through into the crankshaft pulley. I lost one before I knew they were there and had to have the same supply shop turn one up for me on their lathe.



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Jim Nantz

06-20-2001 13:25:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 550 Industrial front hydro pump in reply to John P., 06-20-2001 12:59:44  
John,

The whole thing with the front pump and PTO clutch started a couple weeks ago with the radiator core leaking (it was rotted out). At the time I didn�t realize the engine end of the pump shaft was splined and would slide out giving me access to remove the grill and radiator. I had not had this apart in the 13 years I�ve owned the tractor.

Since I wanted to remove the grill, I attempted to remove the sprocket coupling from the shaft. As long as I was removing the Oil tank and pump, I decided to remove the rest of the loader frame and split the tractor to fix the pesky PTO clutch. Since I did not fully understand the concept of an over-center locking clutch (no springs necessary), a remove, clean, replace, and re-adjust seemed the best way to go. It turns out I�m glad I did. Even though a new radiator core (now thicker with more tubes than stock) was $260. I saved as much as $1,200 doing the tear down, rebuild myself. I also replaced the belt and cooling hoses.

I grew up in the shop of my father�s Oliver dealership, in eastern Iowa, in the late fifties, early sixties. He and my uncle and grandfather sold tractors, implements, appliances, and cars from the late 1930�s to the late 1960�s. Though I am not a professional mechanic like my dad was, I have always enjoyed it, though a little less sometimes when it is 95 degrees in my shop and the locked setscrew wont budge.

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JohnP.

06-20-2001 18:39:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 550 Industrial front hydro pump in reply to Jim Nantz, 06-20-2001 13:25:39  
I just went through the new radiator core thing myself. That is how I found out the old gears and chain were just about ready to throw in the towel. Glad I caught it before it broke in the middle of a job. I have found out there is always something with a 45 year old tractor.



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