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Oliver dos'nt run well

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Rex Drinnon

03-09-2001 16:46:44




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We have a Oliver 770 that runs rich and fouls plugs in the winter. If we diconect the air filter hose it seems to run better. Is the oil in the oil bath resovoir to thick or does anyone have any idea's on what would cause this problem? We have adjusted the carburater and does'nt make much difference. any sugestions would be apreciated.




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jerry gerthofer

03-10-2001 11:55:08




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 Re: Oliver dos'nt run well in reply to Rex Drinnon, 03-09-2001 16:46:44  
do you ever check for moisture in the distributor cap



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Dean

03-10-2001 10:25:25




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 Re: Oliver dos'nt run well in reply to Rex Drinnon, 03-09-2001 16:46:44  
Rex,

I also live in Northern Wisconsin and plow snow with my 1650. I doubt icing is the problem. The fact that the engine seems to runs better with the oil bath air cleaner disconnected tells me that you are on the right track. There is some restriction in it that causes a rich condition. I'd try a new element and a lighter oil first.

Two other things I've learned. I run a bottle of STP water remover in each tank of gas during the winter. Also, be sure your ignition system is right on the money. I too had a problem with mine loading up during the winter. I replaced the points, plugs, plug wires, rotor, cap, and condenser... end of problem.

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Bob M

03-10-2001 07:15:52




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 Re: Oliver dos'nt run well in reply to Rex Drinnon, 03-09-2001 16:46:44  
Hi Rex - Your problem is carb venturi icing. We've got 3 gas Olivers (1600, 1650 and 1850) we use to plow snow here in upstate NY - they've all got the same problem. The suggestions below are good ones - here's a couple more I've found that help...

1 - Make sure the tractor has a thermostat installed and it's working. I've found 180 deg (or 192 deg if you can find one) is best for winter operation.

2 - Block off about 90% of the radiator front with cardboard, a plastic feed bag or whatever. Then pull the air inlet tube off the carburetor. This results in hot air from the radiator being drawn directly into the carb - eliminates any possibility of icing once the motor warms up. If it's dusty and you don't want to disconnect the aircleaner (not likely when plowing snow!), run a flex hose from the air cleaner inlet stack - position the open end right behind the fan to pick up the hot air.

Sometimes installing spark plugs one or two heat ranges higer helps too. Seems to me I've got Champion N-14Y in them all now.

Hope this helps!

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Scott Green

03-09-2001 20:11:29




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 Re: Oliver dos'nt run well in reply to Rex Drinnon, 03-09-2001 16:46:44  
Hi Rex , For winter time running , you need to add isopropo(not sure of spelling),(gas line anti freeze). This sounds like your problem. Most all up draft carburators need this treatment in the winter time , in cold areas. If not used , the carb ices up , causeing blockage inside carb ports , which makes them run rich.



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Jerry B

03-09-2001 18:05:08




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 Re: Oliver dos'nt run well in reply to Rex Drinnon, 03-09-2001 16:46:44  
It sounds like the oil in the oil bath breather is too thick or the "horse hair" filter (as we used to call them years ago), is very dirty.
Try changing to 5w-20 or lighter oil and washing out the filter element inside the breather. The best bet might be to hollow out the entire breather and convert it to a dry element type filter.



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Rex Drinnon

03-10-2001 06:52:40




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 Re: Re: Oliver dos'nt run well in reply to Jerry B, 03-09-2001 18:05:08  
Thanks guys! They are real good cures I'll try both answers. We live in northern Wisconsin and the tractor is used for snow removal, can't afford to have it down. Thanks again.



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