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Mark

01-08-2001 20:17:03




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I'am needing to update my equipment for a small hay operation and I'am hoping to get some info from the experienced Oliver owner- operator. I've never owned or operated a Oliver, but I've heard a lot of good reports on them. What number tractor would be in the 80 horse power range and have a strong enough 3point to lift 1500lb. bales easily. How reliable are there diesel engines? Thanks in advance for any advice or input you can give me. p.s. what kind of price range should I expect and are parts still readily available

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Big Jim

01-12-2001 14:17:08




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
I bought a 1655 Oliver diesel about 5 years ago. Its about 70 PTO HP and has been a real good tractor, very few problems. They are a real handy tractor well geared and good hydraulics. They are are somewhat hard to start in cold weather as mentioned by one of the other posters.



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Sam M.

01-12-2001 08:18:37




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
I have three Olivers which are used a good bit baling and moving hay bales . The Oliver 1555 is somewhere around 52 to 55 horsepower and will pick up large round bales exceeding 1500 lbs although you might have to run up the throttle some . I recently replaced the hydraulic pump in this tractor and it works great now . In a pinch , i have used this tractor to pull a baler (a vermeer 505 i think ) and it works okay but going up hill does put a load on the tractor especially if you are close to having a full bale . I paid aound 5500 for this tractor in 1996 but it was bought from the original owner , was shed kept and had only about 3000 hours and good rubber . I have an Oliver 1855 with a 1955 engine . Apparently there were problems with the 1855 engine and Oliver had a program to replace some of them with 1955 engines . The 1955 engine is approximately 105 hp . This engine is turbocharged . We have been using this tractor to pull a Vermeer baler and it works well at very low speed and low rpm . I also use this tractor to pull a 15 foot bush hog which cuts about 150 acres at least two times each summer . The hydraulics on the tractor are strong but it has a closed system which I understand may wear out quicker than the open system on the 15 , 16 and 1850 series. I believe I paid about 7000 for this tractor . It was a one owner but I had to do some engine work because the rings on the piston sleeves leaked cooling water into the oil sump . The only complaint I have about this tractor is it has a tight gear box and sometimes is difficult to shift like when you are baling hay . I recently purchased an Oliver 1850 . So far this has been a great tractor (approximately 95 hp). It starts easily in cold weather , has a strong engine and hydraulics and is easy to shift . We are probably going to set this tractor up to bale with this summer because it is so much easier to shift than the 1855. I paid 6000 for this tractor last year but I knew the owner and how he had taken care of the tractor, the sheet metal was in good shape , the tire were fair and the tractor only had 3100 hours . This tractor gets as good fuel mileage (hours) as either the 1855 or the 1555 . I have also used it for pulling a 12 foot athens harrow and an 11 foot grain drill . No problems for this engine . A friend of mine has a 1650 and a 1655 . He has been very pleased with both tractors although the 1655 is very cold natured . He uses the 1650 to pull a vermeer 605 baler . He only paid 1500 for this tractor but the engine was shot , it needed new rubber and new brakes and there were several other minor problems with the hydraulics that he fixed himself .. I agree that parts are easy to find on these tractors although Agco parts are pricey .

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ingmar Remmler

09-12-2001 21:30:36




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 Re: Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Sam M. , 01-12-2001 08:18:37  
Hi everyone. I just bought a 1555 Cockshutt tractor with about 3600 hours showing. Came with a cab and snow blade. Looks to be in beautiful shape and everything seems to work fine. I bought it mostly to use with my bush hog and to plow myself out in the winter as well as to haul some logs out of the bush. I'm wondering if this particular model has any common weaknesses I should be on the lookout for? It's a 1974 model. Also, what's the difference between it and an Oliver 1555?? Same thing? I'd appreciate any comments anyone may have. Thanks. Ingmar R.

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Shepherd again

01-10-2001 05:30:32




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
One place you may want to look that has these type of tractors for sale is on agcocorp.com and look in their machine finder. The tractors here tend to be a little pricy, but it will give you an idea of what they look like and, and what the prices are. Happy Hunting.



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Jim Mc.

01-10-2001 02:46:47




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
Mark, We have a dairy farm and use oliver tractors,I try to do most repairs myself so Ihave alittle experience with them. I think Shephard's list looks about right although I have'nt had much experience with the 1800 series. I would strongly reccomend agood 1850 deisal if you can find one, we have several and are quite happy with them, plenty of power and good fuel economy, they don't seem to use any more fuel than our 1650 or 1655 (wich are also good tractors). Generally around here (upstate N.Y.) the 1850's go from 3,000 to 6,000 wich does'nt seem to be much more than a 1650 or 1655 would bring. just my 2cents, good luck whatever you decide on.

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Mapledale

01-09-2001 18:54:48




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
We have a 1650, a 1655, 1800, 1955, and a 770. All of these will do the job and then some, excapt the 770, as she is smaller than the rest. Our 1650 is the best all around tractor that we have. But the 1655 is about 70hp and will easily lift over a ton on the 3-pt hitch. Out of personal experience only, the 1750 is not a very reliable tractor. Go with a 16 or an 18. The 1955 is 108hp, maybe too much for what you are doing. also quite expensive- at about $9000 for 4WD.
Expect to pay $5000 for a 1650 2WD, $7000 for a 1655 4WD.
Happy hunting and keep it green.

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Dean

01-09-2001 13:56:36




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
My 66 hp. 1650 gas lifts my 1300 lb. rotary cutter all day long. Something else for you to think about; so many choices!



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Bob Semrau

01-09-2001 13:01:15




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
My 1600 gas - 60 hp, lifts 6 X 5 bales OK and runs a JD 510 round baler. I not sure of the exact weight of my bales, but I'm sure that they're at least 1200 pounds. You could buy a lot of gas for the difference in tractor price ...



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Mike M (WA)

01-09-2001 09:08:17




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
Just to amplify a bit on Shepherd's comments- All the models mentioned except the 1850 use a 6 cylinder Waukesha engine- they seem to have some problems with crankshafts and heads. However, there are still thousands of them around, and are very serviceable especially if you are not using them at sustained high-speed load. The 1850 uses a Perkins engine, and is the "find" of the lot.

Other than the engines, the big Olivers were pretty bullet proof. There are still a surprising number of parts available through AGCO (the present owner of the old Oliver nameplate), and just about anything else can be found through a bulletin board like this on the Internet.

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Shepherd

01-09-2001 05:29:08




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 Re: Oliver tractors? in reply to Mark, 01-08-2001 20:17:03  
OK I will take a stab at this one, Mark. Some tractors that would qualify, in order of age, are:

1800 at about 75Hp
1750 at about 80Hp
1850 at about 90Hp
1655 at about 70Hp
1755 at about 85hp

Any of these tractors will easly lift a 1500 lb round bale. The diesel engines that these tractors have are good, but with any tractor there are things to look for -- the 1850 has the best engine of the lot. I would guess that you will have to pay anywhere from $4000 to $8000 depending on the condition, age, and location of the tractor. There are lots of differences in these tractors, if you find one of these for sale and have questions just post it here and we will try to help.

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