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11-28-2000 14:53:42

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during disassembly of 3 buda 153 engines i noted that 0ne engine had a larger bore(.125).can the smaller sleeves be bored to accept these"big bore" pistons?finished wall would be about .100".with new rings it seems to make sence.am i nuts?loaded question.ok then,will it work?

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Possum

11-29-2000 18:55:03

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Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to Al, 11-28-2000 14:53:42

Al, I asked a machinist friend of mine at work.
He said the minimum recomended wet sleve thickness
is .175 he took a set down to .125 for a guy once
and it wasn't very long before they started to crack. Hope this helps

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11-29-2000 20:50:59

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Re: Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to Possum, 11-29-2000 18:55:03

thanks possium,my suspisions,my buddy(automotive machinist)and your machinist buddy all say no,i will find a better way.thanks to everyone for the advice.
Al

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Barry

11-29-2000 17:10:33

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Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to Al, 11-28-2000 14:53:42

Any engine shop should be able to get new sleeves for you. 3 1/2" is the common oversize for these engines. A.P.I.in North Dakota has sleeve assemblys for 110.00 per hole for this engine for example.

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Mack

11-29-2000 07:07:24

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Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to Al, 11-28-2000 14:53:42

Al, why don't you just decide what bore you want and buy a set of universal sleeves to do the job? I have a 70 with a 3 9/16" bore and thats what I used, I know of another with 3 5/8". It takes a lot of boreing of the block. You will have to have a copper head gasket made, Lubbock Gaskets in Texas can do that.

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11-29-2000 09:45:23

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Re: Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to Mack, 11-29-2000 07:07:24

thanksfor the comments Mac,but i do not think this will work in a wet sleeve engine because of the details on the o.d. of the sleeves.also i am in eastern ontario,long way from texas.
Al

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larry wolfe

11-28-2000 15:46:14

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Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to Al, 11-28-2000 14:53:42

It should work. The person to ask is the one who will do the boreing.

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11-28-2000 20:11:15

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Re: Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to larry wolfe, 11-28-2000 15:46:14

larry,i will be the one doing the boring,i am a machinist,no problem on that front,but my mechanic buddy is worried about wall thickness
Al.

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larry wolfe

11-29-2000 09:13:55

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Re: Re: Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to al, 11-28-2000 20:11:15

I have seen this done before. I would compare the thicknes of the correct sleeves and if they are simalar to what the bored ones end up, i would guess its ok.

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11-29-2000 09:52:17

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Re: Re: Re: Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to larry wolfe, 11-29-2000 09:13:55

larry,bingo,hit it on the head,my ''big bore sleeves are just as stated,i just dont know if they are for real or somebody tryed what i am thinking.one sleeve has a gash ripped in it and that has caused my concern.
Al

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B A Star

11-28-2000 22:56:05

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Re: Re: Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to al, 11-28-2000 20:11:15

Al: Do you know anyone that is in the race engine building business? They will have sonar equipment that will indicate wall thickness before boring.

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11-29-2000 06:10:27

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Re: Re: Re: Re: cylinder sleeves in reply to B A Star, 11-28-2000 22:56:05

determining wall thickness is not the problem,i want to know if .100" is enough
thanks

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