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Oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry!

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Jim Hines

09-08-2000 05:01:52

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Thanks to Larry for following my last post. My 88 is in the shop. The mechanic is saying 12-1500$ to replace main bearings and regrind crank. He is offering me a little for the tractor which currently is hard to start (starter is in tough shaped). Paint is scratched/faded, missing side "tins"(the super ones), has wide front. I have put a loader on it which works good enough to lift 600# round bales.

Ok, being that I use the tractor to make 2 acres of hay and plow snow in the winter, I am debating the whole idea of fixing it. Only thing holding me back is that I got a good deal on the beast from an old friend. It is my only tractor.

If anyone has ideas or can make me a kind offer for this tractor in SE Minnesota let me know.

Jim

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Mark

09-09-2000 04:36:21

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Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Jim Hines, 09-08-2000 05:01:52

I'd get the S88 repaired. Its doing you no good the way it is and you'll probably take a bath on it selling in its present state of disrepair. You also have a loader for this unit. A starter rebuild will cost under $100 even if the armatuer is shot. With under $2000 in repairs you have one nice tractor. As long as the rest of the tractor is is good order, repair is my choice. Its a fine model tractor.

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Paul Stanley

09-09-2000 08:43:10

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Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Mark, 09-09-2000 04:36:21

I agree. Let's face it, I bet this tractor has put in a lot of time and if all you have to invest to keep it going is aobut $2000. That's not much these days, "cough cough", but it's true. What would you get to replace it and for how much more? I say keep it running. ..... ..

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Steve in CA

09-08-2000 13:03:21

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Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Jim Hines, 09-08-2000 05:01:52

It sounds like the tractor suits your purpose just fine, and 88's are damn nice tractors. You can put $2K into fixing it up nice, and then you have something you know the history of, or you can put $2K+ into someone else's headache. I'd go for what you have.

And $1500 to just replace bearings and regrind the crank sounds very high to me - seems like an engine rebuild would be in this neighborhood. I'm sure someone will tell me I'm way out of touch here!

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Bill

09-08-2000 15:22:13

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Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Steve in CA, 09-08-2000 13:03:21

Regrind for crank costs $200 to $500 depending on the damage and the amount to be ground.
Rod and main bearings are $250 to $350 depending on if undersized or not.
Motor has to be pulled and the front and rear covers needs to come off to get the crank out if it needs grinding. 8 hours out and 8 hours in minimum. 16 hrs * $30 to $50 per hour = $480 to $800.

Gasket set $75 to $125.
You get to $1,000 very fast if you have someone else do the work. Remember this is not a complete rebuild.
To rebuild the motor complete along with grinding the crank you can easily get $2,500 to $3,500 into a motor with the labor. My dad owns a shop in WI and we run into this all the time. We still love these old tractors though.

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09-08-2000 13:14:06

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Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Steve in CA, 09-08-2000 13:03:21

A friend once told me that everything you have done to a deisel, even things as regular as haveing a pair of mating surfaces machined, the price doubles. It still seems high to me. My uncle(with his own labor)is rebuilding an engine in an 88D for a pulling tractor. I seem to remember hearing around 750-800 for a kit.

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Tom

09-09-2000 17:58:48

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Re: Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to FM, 09-08-2000 13:14:06

Every one is forgetting its a diesel and hard to start he says .It very well could be injection pump head is worn out if it is you are looking at 800 to 1000 just to fix it as it is no longer being produced however if he is not going for orginal equp. he could switch the pump with 1650 A parts and this will work finefor about 400 dollars and a days work! Good Luck

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Jim Hines

09-11-2000 05:25:33

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Re: Re: Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Tom, 09-09-2000 17:58:48

OK-
Should the mechanic be looking at these as well-
1. Compression (for valves/rings)
2. Injectors
3. Injector pump?

And, the biggest question: Are changing main and rod bearings something that can be done by a rookie on the farm? I am not a motor mechanic, but I can read manuals, turn wrenches, and usually find some help. I was also a engineer for industrial/ag equipment for a couple of years. It sounds like block has to be raised or moved for this one. Thanks to all of Oliver fans who have been replying to the posts-Jim

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larry

09-11-2000 09:30:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Jim Hines, 09-11-2000 05:25:33

Engine bearings can be replaced easy if you don't mind working underneth. Loosen bolts on all the mains,then remove one at a time. You will have to slip the top ones around. With the rods it is important to keep the correct caps on the right rods,keep the numbers matched. Leave the block right where it is with the bolts in. Most of the time the crank does not have to be removed.

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Eric the Red

09-10-2000 14:46:22

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Re: Re: Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Tom, 09-09-2000 17:58:48

Injector pump shops can be the biggest rip off. We had a pump that needed rebuilt on our 1950-T and the local rip off artist told us 1200 and he still probally could not do it and we would have to buy a new pump from him and it would cost 2000. We called Mabach's in Creston, Ohio and asked them who they got to do there pump work. We called that guy. He told us that he never gets more than 500 in a pump and he has never seen a pump that he could not rebuild. We sent him the pump that our local pump shop said was junk on Friday by UPS and on Tuesday we had it back. That pump that could not be rebuilt is working just fine now and the total bill was 400. If you or any one else needs a pump rebuilt let me know and I will get the number for you or you can call Mabach's.

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Eric the Red

09-10-2000 14:44:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: oliver super 88 diesel -fix or sell and thanks Larry! in reply to Tom, 09-09-2000 17:58:48

Injector pump shops can be the biggest rip off. We had a pump that needed rebuilt on our 1950-T and the local rip off artist told us 1200 and he still probally could not do it adn we would have to buy a new pump from him and it would cost 2000. We called Mabach's in Creston, Ohio and asked them who they got to do there pump work. We called that guy. He told us that he never gets mor than 500 in a pump and he has never seen a pump that he could not rebuild. We sent him the pump that our local pump shop said was junk on Friday by UPS and on Tuesday we had it back. That pump that could not be rebuilt is working just fine now and the total bill was 400. If you or any one else needs a pump rebuilt let me know and I will get the number for you or you can call Mabach's.

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