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Shepherd

08-08-2000 07:35:30




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I am looking at purchasing an oliver tractor with FWA. I currently own a 1655 and an 1855 two wheel drive but have never messed with the FWA tractors. Do these work OK ?? What are the good and bad points to them?? What are some things to look for when buying one with the FWA?? Any other thoughts would be helpful. I think the FWA is hydrolic driven, is that how oliver drove the front?




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River Dale farms

08-08-2000 08:55:35




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 Re: Oliver FWD in reply to Shepherd, 08-08-2000 07:35:30  
Have had 4wd Oliver for 30 years, been great, but I wouldn't touch a hyd. one with a 10 foot pole.



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Shepherd

08-08-2000 09:09:38




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 Re: Re: Oliver FWD in reply to River Dale farms, 08-08-2000 08:55:35  
Why?? What is wrong with them?? This is what I am trying to find out. Is there an option for making a Hydro FWD into a manuel FWD if that works better??



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River Dale Farms

08-09-2000 05:59:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver FWD in reply to Shepherd, 08-08-2000 09:09:38  
The hyd. front assist is probably alright for a collector, maybe should be, because most ended being scrapped. Early hyd drives didn't have much torque, would get hot when used too much and slip even more. Oliver had this as an answer to JD's hyd front assist which also had limited good revues. Do you know the condition of the hyd. components on the tractor you're looking at? Repair and/or replacement can be very expensive. Hyd's today are much different than 25 years ago and they still can be very frustrating when not working right. The gear front assist axle is powered from a transfer case off the main transmission housing. Can be adapted to virtually any 'late' Oliver but you need ALL the parts, machining,lots of labor and patience, Probably not practical. Find a tractor with the equipment!! Thanks Dale

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Wrenchbender

08-10-2000 06:08:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver FWD in reply to River Dale Farms, 08-09-2000 05:59:26  

I didn't quite get your statement"Oliver had this as an answer to JD's hyd front assit.". Oliver's hyd FWA was offered on tractors in the mid 60's, I don't remember jd having it until the 30 series almost ten years later. My belief is that Oliver may have offered the hyd FWA for row crop farming and the MFWD all other applications. I don't mean to be a smart ***, but Oliver never had to answer to anything that jd had. WB.

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River Dale Farms

08-10-2000 06:38:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver FWD in reply to Wrenchbender, 08-10-2000 06:08:20  
Hi there, John Deere offered hyd front assist on the 20 series tractors, about a year before Oliver offered it. The advantage to the hyd system was manuverability[steer much shorter] Neither one was very good and both were dropped. And you are right Oliver didn't have to answer much to JD or any others, but from a sales point of view they did have competion, like every other company did. Thus the hyd concept. Thanks Dale

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Shepherd

08-10-2000 11:22:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver FWD in reply to River Dale Farms, 08-10-2000 06:38:24  
You were right Dale. I got to see some pictures of a hydro Oliver's system that was on the tractor. What a mess!! It appears the front hydrostat system is compleatly seperate from the rear drive line. You have to choose a gear for the front and the rear at the same time. Also there appears to be no power in the front wheels in reverse. The whole unit sits out about two feet in front of the grill of the tractor and is a complex system of pistons and hoses. I think you are right-- this system belongs to a collector. If i decide to buy the tractor the FWA is coming off. Thanks for everyones help.

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