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70 RC Seat Types?

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Gary Underwood

06-30-2000 04:48:17




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Anyone have any idea how many seat designs Oliver made on their 70 Row Crops? I have one with a spring and hydraulic cylinder arrangement on a 1947 model. A long mono bar(approx 1-2" in diameter arrangement)a couple of feet long, that places the seat aft a bit on a 1941 model. And I know I have seen a third with a thinner bar that mounts in two places on the tractor, then bends around to create a seat cradle.

Please shed some light!

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highboyford

06-30-2000 16:14:27




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 Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to Gary Underwood, 06-30-2000 04:48:17  
I have been told that a Monroe easy ride seat was a option(similar to Massys 44 seat).which would then use a shock(Monroe)in place of the springs.



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Scott Green

07-01-2000 07:32:06




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 Re: Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to highboyford, 06-30-2000 16:14:27  
Highboyford , I have seen seats on the Massey Harris tractors that were simular to the one we are talking about on the Oliver "60" & "70". If I remember right , the tubular frame which sticks out in front of the seat on the Massey Harris attaches to the driver platform. Where as on the Oliver , the tubular frame(swing arm)mounts on top of the machanical lift for the cultivators. The seat has a tapered coil spring under it. Behind the seat is a shock absorber.In my experience , I feel that it was one of the most comfortable , durable seats of the times.

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highboyford

07-01-2000 20:29:10




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 Re: Re: Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to Scott Green, 07-01-2000 07:32:06  
I dont know I have never ran a Oliver with one although some old boys around here with a few acres under their belts claim that if you hit bumps just right you tend to go head over heels like a catapult.



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Scott Green

07-02-2000 04:57:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to highboyford, 07-01-2000 20:29:10  
Highboy ford , You tell them old boy's that the shock absorber must be hooked up at both ends(joking). I've never had that problem with the Oliver "70". Yesterday , I looked at a Massey Harris "44" which a friend of mine has. The seat design is very simular.It's so close in design , that I would say it was made by the same company. On the massey Harris , the tubular frame (swing arm)in front of the seat is shorter.It also mounts closer to the driver platform , which lets the seat itself come up on an angle against the stearing wheel.I could see how this style seat on the Massey Harris could possibly catapult the operator when hitting a bump just right.The shock absorber is also in front of the seat. Not behind the seat , like the ones on the Olivers.Years ago , I've operated a Massey Harris"44" tractor in the hay fields and in the woods.The only thing I remember about that tractor was that it was a hard stearing , clumsy machine. It also use to pop out of first gear. It did start good , and pull good.

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highboyford - be carefull Scott

07-03-2000 14:02:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to Scott Green, 07-02-2000 04:57:56  
HI Scott, Diesel is a big MH (or mf)fan (must be something Canadian)(just Joking)anyway we dont agree to much on the 44 so in the name of friendship I will remain mum on them :~}But Yes Monroe did make both setups as far as the seats go.Funny (or sad thing)they are all under the same company now.Oh well some call it progress.



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Scott Green

07-03-2000 19:18:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to highboyford - be carefull Scott, 07-03-2000 14:02:09  
Sorry Diesel , we aren't trying to make the furr stand up on any ones back.



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Pops

07-04-2000 16:33:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to Scott Green, 07-03-2000 19:18:29  
Sorry guys, but none of you mentioned the original equipment seat on the older 70's. It consisted of a spring steel rod about 5/8 in. diameter bent into a square shape. The seat was a piece of canvas with loops sewed on both ends and threaded over the rod so that the canvas was suspended from both sides. Actually it didn't feel too bad for the first 8 hours or so, but there wasn't much spring to it and the canvas tended to concentrate your weight on the extreme sides so you could get a mighty sore butt if you spent a lot of time on it. The Monroe seat you all described was an aftermarket gadget. It was available for all makes of tractors and was very popular. The other original seat I used had rubber torsion springs and was the same as the early 77 and probably 88 as well. It was a very good seat. I owned a 1948 RC70 that had it. Our first RC70 was a 1937 model with the canvas seat.
The next one was a 1946 that came out with the canvas seat and was changed to the Monroe seat as soon as we could get one. Those 70's were good tractors. We used the '37 until 1957, and the other two until 1959.

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Scott Green

07-04-2000 20:31:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to Pops, 07-04-2000 16:33:45  
Pop's , Down at the bottom , Delburt mentions something about the hamock seats. Is this the kind of hamock seat you are talking about?



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Scott Green

06-30-2000 15:28:02




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 Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to Gary Underwood, 06-30-2000 04:48:17  
It sounds like you have the same seat on your "70" as I had on one of mine.I believe it is an after market seat made by someone else besides Oliver. 25-27 years ago , I was told thatI had the good seat on my "70". To me , it was just the seat that was on the tractor when I bought it. As time went on , I realized that my nieghbor was right.I did have the good seat. I don't remember who made that style seat , but I don't believe it came as an option on Oliver "70" tractors. Also , when I mention the good seat, I'm talking before the ride master torsion spring seat.

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Delbert

06-30-2000 10:16:01




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 Re: 70 RC Seat Types? in reply to Gary Underwood, 06-30-2000 04:48:17  
Oliver made three seats for the 70 models. The first was a canvas seat referred to as a hammock seat, the early frames were lighter frames than the later canvass seat frames. There was a seat with a similar frame except it had a flat metal on the frame with a cushion and a back rest. The third seat had the torsion suspension like the fleetline 77 and 88's. This is what I remember. I have some of the canvas covers for the hammock seat. Any other seat most likely was an after market seat. Delbert.

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