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New style 88 standard??

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Steve T

03-07-2000 19:00:08




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I stopped to look at a Oliver 88 standard today that has a loader. They were asking $3000.00 for it, but dropped the price down to $2500.00. It started and run pretty good, for about 10 minits, then it ran out of gas. It ran long enough to play with the loader and I was just ready to "Take it around the block" when it ran out of gas, so I dont know what the transmission and differential sounds like. I plan on going back this weekend to take a closer look. What I found so far is it has a charlynn steering pump adapted to it, and the engine appears to have been out recently for who nows what, but no smoke, clean oil, runs well. The exhaust manifold has been broken and welded. It also appears that a roll pin or something is broken on the lever for the PTO. I opened a little cover above the PTO shaft (there is a grease zerk in there) and could see that the lever fork is trying to move what ever is in there, but wont engage the PTO. Does this tractor have a 2 stage clutch for the PTO? is it a live PTO or a transmission PTO? I am really interested in this tractor, but dont know anything about Olivers. Is this a good tractor for loader opperation? It wont be used for work every day, but I need a tractor with a loader around here now and then. Its not a pretty looking machine, but looks fairly stout. The most important thing I need to know about this tractor is if there is anything I need to pay close attention to when I go back to take a closer look. Is this tractor prone to anything particular? Anything that you can tell me to look for BEFORE I buy it would be most appreciated. I wasnt smart enough to get the serial number off of it when I looked at it, so I dont know what year it is, or if its a "SUPER" or not. All it said on the tag was "88 Standard" Thanks in advance for your time and your 2 cents worth
Steve T

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Chris Hanna

04-03-2000 09:52:57




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 Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Steve T, 03-07-2000 19:00:08  
theres an oliver 88 on the auction at this site. very nice tractor well worth the price.



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J-man

03-11-2000 19:14:38




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 Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Steve T, 03-07-2000 19:00:08  
Would make a great loader tractor. The end of the pto shaft up top could have twisted the end off. We were baling with our 66 and this happened, it wasent pulling hard but it just twisted the end off. Very reasonable price.



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Tracy

03-08-2000 20:59:14




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 Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Steve T, 03-07-2000 19:00:08  
Yea Steve,I dont own an 88, but i have two 77,s &a 770,But I have been around a couple of 88,s and both of them have had the frame broken right where the tractor splits in half,maybe this is due to loader abuse,or I wondered if this might be common for an 88, I have a 77 w, loader we,ve used for years & never had any problems.i,m sure for light duty lifting this tractor will work fine.The grease zerk on the back on the pto is to lube the fork that engages the the independent pto,it is a live pto,not a transmission pto. Iwould take it around the block,try reverse,these tractors make a certin whine of there own,Im sure you can tell the dif between whine & trouble, good luck ,Price sounds reasonable.

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Steve T

03-09-2000 20:01:07




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 Re: Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Tracy, 03-08-2000 20:59:14  
Thanks for the tip, Ill check out the frame a little closer. I went back and got the serial number, and it looks to be a late 1949 model. It has the strangest shift patern that Ive ever seen, almost like 2 transmissions on the same stick.
Steve T



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Mongo

03-09-2000 21:10:33




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 Re: Re: Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Steve T, 03-09-2000 20:01:07  
The double "H" pattern is a characteristic of the Olivers. If the PTO won't "pop" into gear it is either needing adjusting or a new clutch. Some people think they are smart and apply pressure to the lever, but this just wears out exspensive parts. The pressure plate (which is what you saw inside the bonnet) has shims around it at each bolt. These have to be removed in series until the fork arms lock in when engaged. There is a difference between the 88/S88 and the 88 standard. For one, the wide front end is more underneath the tractor. It is a simple design and easily worked on/serviced. The unmistakable reason for the previously mentioned broken 88's would have been from bouncing them. The "bathtub" is made of cast and is very strong but will crack instead of bend when bounced. You will mostly see this at tractor pulls tho, not much call for it on the farm. This will make you an excellent loader tractor and I can't see anything wrong with the price. Either gas or diesel it will have right at 39hp and weigh right at 5,400 lbs not counting the loader or weights/fluid.

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Steve T

03-10-2000 21:15:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Mongo, 03-09-2000 21:10:33  
Hi Mongo, Thanks for the advice. I seen some pix of an 88 standard with a V-12 engine and some really big tires on the back for puller competition. Its my guess that if it will take that kind of strain, then it should do just fine for what I need it for. When I looked in the grease zerk hole for the PTO fork?/bearing? I could see that the fork would only move a little bit when moving the PTO lever. So I came to the conclusion that there most be a roll pin through the fork and shaft to hold them together. If Im right, then what you are saying is that there is an overcenter clutch to engage the PTO? If this thing has a live PTO, then there must also be 2 shafts (one inside of the other) from the clutch to the transmission? One to run the transmission, and one to run the PTO? The more I think about this tractor, the more intriqed I become about it. Well, I get to check it out in the morning and see just what kind of shape it really is in,:) Thanks again for the tip. Steve T

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Tracy

03-10-2000 23:12:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Steve T, 03-10-2000 21:15:36  
Steve,You are exactly correct, there is a shaft inside a shaft to run the pto,yes it is a cool transmission with a low & high range ,and easy to work on too.Tracy



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Steve T

03-11-2000 05:04:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New style 88 standard?? in reply to Tracy, 03-10-2000 23:12:20  
You just said the magic word,,,EASY. Now, can I hear "Inexpensive parts"? :)
Steve T



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