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Lawrence A. (L

02-16-2000 15:23:10




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I am new to this and just bought some hay ground in Washington. I was going to buy a John Deere tractor but after reading this I think I should Look at Oliver. What model compares with a John Deere 7410? I want MFWD, cab, and AC. I will also need a loader. Where is the closest dealer in the Yakima area? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks




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Mike

02-18-2000 21:16:41




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 Re: New tractor in reply to Lawrence A. (Larry), 02-16-2000 15:23:10  
If you were to go with Oliver I would go with a 1855 or 1955 MFWD with factory cab and air.
These were built during 1969,70 to 1974,75 these were the last series under the Oliver name. Bad thing about the Front Assist on these are the turning radius (20 ft w/o the brakes) and they are expensive to repair. If you go with Oliver find one with a good Front Assist. White replaced Oliver. White used many of Oliver's featues in there tractors up to 1993. Agco bought White, now called Agco White. They have now intergrated features on the White that are also found on other Agco tractors, but threre are still some traditional White/Oliver features.

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Mike-- Has Specs. JD 7410 vs. White 6810

02-18-2000 22:56:04




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 Re: Re: New tractor in reply to Mike, 02-18-2000 21:16:41  
Here are some Specs from Deere Literature 8/98, and White Literature 5/98. This is what White has for competition for Deere in this HP. range
Don't Know how well this will turn out but here it is.....

Model JD 7410 , White 6810

HP 105 , 110

Engine JD 6.8 L , Cummins 5.9 L

# of Cyl. 6 , 6

Asperation turbo , turbo

Inj. Pump Rotary , Inline

Fuel Cap. 50 gal. , 59 gal.

Trans. 20 speed , 32 speed 5x4 8x4 Pwr. Quad Quadshift

Shuttle optional , standard

Creeper optional , optional

Brakes Hyd. , Hyd.

Diff Lock Yes , Yes

PTO 540/1000 , 540/1000
Economy PTO Not Aval. , Standard


Hyd. Sys. Closed Center , Closed Center

Psi Max. 2900 , 2900

Gpm Max.
at remotes 27 , 29

Remote valves 2 , 2

(Optional) (3 or 4) , (3)

3-Point Cat. II , Cat. II

Lift Capacity 7400 lb. , 9000 lb. (8390 Ib Opt.)

Approx Weight 12,343 lb. , 10,190 lb.

Warranty Not Disclosed , 2 yr. 2000h.
(Opt.) " " (3 yr. 3000h.) (4 yr. 4000h.)

Price HIGH AS HELL , REASONABLE

Loaders 740 & 840 , 688 & 688LL


Make your decision on the specs they don't lie.

Other Oliver Trators to Consider: 1855, 1955 98 hp, 108 hp

Other White tractors to consider: White 2-88, 2-105 2-110 100 White American 80 White Workhorse 125

E-mail me questions you might have. I've got literature on this stuff.

7000 series tractors do have some 3-pt problems, and some things are difficult to service.

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Lawrence A. (Larry)

02-19-2000 22:53:13




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 Re: Re: Re: New tractor in reply to Mike-- Has Specs. JD 7410 vs. White 6810, 02-18-2000 22:56:04  
Thanks Mike. This gives me something else to consider. I really appreciate your input.



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Don Nelson

02-17-2000 10:50:26




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 Re: New tractor in reply to Lawrence A. (Larry), 02-16-2000 15:23:10  
Well, I do not say go away! Just ignore that message.
I am not really up on just what a JD 7410 is, so I do not know what would be equivalent. Anyway, if you are looking for a new tractor you can go to the AGCO web site. agco.com. They have information on the AGCO line of equipment. I believe they also have a dealer locator at the site.
AGCO is the company that purchased White which had purchased Oliver. There are no new Oliver tractors and have not been for many years. The White tractors were largely a continuation of Oliver along with some valuable help from Cockshutt and Minneapolis Moline.
If you have more questions just ask. If you don't like the tone of some people on this site, you can contact me directly and I will see what I can do to help. Who knows, you may want to get one of the old Olivers some day.
Don Nelson

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Lawrence A. (Larry)

02-17-2000 12:44:10




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 Re: Re: New tractor in reply to Don Nelson, 02-17-2000 10:50:26  
Thanks Don. I'm beginning to understand a little better now. I really appreciate your help and attitude. If I need any more info I'll get back to you. Thanks again.



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JD-8

02-18-2000 01:51:50




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 Re: Re: Re: New tractor in reply to Lawrence A. (Larry), 02-17-2000 12:44:10  
The 1850, 1855, 1950, and 1955 would be in the same power range as the JD 7410. If you can get one that has had the engine, transmission, and hydraulics checked/gone over by a reputable person or establishment, you could get one with 4wd for $10-15,000 or maybe less if you find a good deal and it would last you many many years if you take care of it and will be much simpler to do repair work on than any brand new tractor that will cost you five times more in the first place.

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Mongo

02-16-2000 17:26:51




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 Re: New tractor in reply to Lawrence A. (Larry), 02-16-2000 15:23:10  
Mr of Arabia, Unless they changed the name of the site, it should be "Yesterday's Tractors" with emphasis on YESTERDAY. You might want to either check at www.overpriced.com for a new Deere or just call 1-800-CRY-BABY. Either would probably be all the help you would need... in other words, go away. Make sure that loader has a manure bucket on it, will ya?



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