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Dsl

02-06-2000 16:05:46




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On the right, we have a White 1870, which is a composite of a Minneapolis Moline G950 engine, front frame and axle, and an Oliver rear end, and cab, and White Sumac Red, and Oliver Clover White paint. The MM G955 is the same basic tactor.

On the left is a Minneapolis Moline G1355, which in itself is not unusual, but this one is painted White Sumac Red, and Oliver Clover White, and looks factory. It also uses the later Oliver cab. In Canada, these are generally known as White 2270's, but this one is labeled MM.

These pictures are from equipment dealers in Canada's west. Thanks to Highboyford for pointing out the site that these pictures are from.

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Martin A. Johnson

02-07-2000 06:35:21




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 Re: A Couple of Interesting Pics in reply to Dsl, 02-06-2000 16:05:46  
Great photo, I have heard some of these beasts existed, boy they look great! I need to get a good shot of this for my book.

where is the site? you refer? a western Canada dealer website?

Marty in North Dakota



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RonMC

02-07-2000 19:38:31




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 Re: Re: A Couple of Interesting Pics in reply to Martin A. Johnson, 02-07-2000 06:35:21  
The site is www.farmach.com , I put it on a couple of these a while back. It is programmable to pick out specifics, covers Alberta and Saskatchewan, and southern Manitoba. Try it for a total '65 and earlier search, there's some great stuff out there. Note that the Canadian dollar is about 2/3 of US$, so $6,000 CDN is $4,000 US. Just don't buy ALL our great old tractors.

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Dsl--whoops, sorry

02-06-2000 22:55:41




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 Re: A Couple of Interesting Pics in reply to Dsl, 02-06-2000 16:05:46  
In Netscape, the pictures got stacked, with the 1355 on top, and the 1870 below. Internet Explorer puts them side by side the way I intended. Sorry about that.



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Von WC Ohio

02-06-2000 19:29:32




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 Re: A Couple of Interesting Pics in reply to Dsl, 02-06-2000 16:05:46  
Thanks for the pictures !

I am always interested in seeing all the different variations of the Oliver/MM/White tractors put together during the transitional years. It's still a shame that Oliver is not around today. Maybe we enthusiasts ought to be pooling resources to buy the rights to Oliver back from Agco. Okay its not realistic but AC was able to get the name back from Deutz at least for a little while.

Thanks again for the pictures !


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WFE

02-07-2000 09:19:21




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 Re: Re: A Couple of Interesting Pics in reply to Von WC Ohio, 02-06-2000 19:29:32  
I'm in. I have thought the same thing many a time--buy the rights to Oliver from Agco, return the Charles City site to its position of tractor production capital of the world, and Oliver returns to its former splendor. Where would the money come from? Well, I figure that with all that John Deere has gained from Oliver (how to build a six-cylinder engine, a modern row-crop tractor, etc.), we ought to be able to sue Deere for all they gained and all Oliver (White) lost. Much easier said than done, but wouldn't it be grand?

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Mike

02-07-2000 20:27:30




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 Re: Re: Re: A Couple of Interesting Pics in reply to WFE, 02-07-2000 09:19:21  
I'm in too! This sounds crazy but it could happen...
Get a bunch of us to pool up our life savings, and put a bid on the Ford Genisis and Versatile line, and the Case IH utilitiy tractors that are up for sale. Then we got a fairly good tractor line to work with. Then buy the rights to the Oliver name as mentioned. Paint them Meadow Green and Clover White. Get a good dealer network. Then when we get stable, put the Oliver plant back were it belongs, Charles City. Finally rob some engineers from Deere to work at Oliver (it's not a far move from Waterloo). It's not like Deere never did this tactic when Oliver was around. Then start developing new tractors at the New Oliver Corperation.

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JD-8

02-07-2000 12:42:57




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 Re: Re: Re: A Couple of Interesting Pics in reply to WFE, 02-07-2000 09:19:21  
I'm in! Let's do it! I like JD, but I like Oliver better, mainly because they were simple, easy to work on, and didn't need to be worked on much! They sure are good pullers, too, and an old Ollie is worth a new JD as far as i'm concerned!



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