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Good Deal Going Bad,... FAST !

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Ken COWBOY Wini

02-11-2008 17:14:26




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I recently bought a Oliver Super 88 which has the older 88 engine installed in it. To make things worse, it has a gasoline block and diesel head. Has the original 3-1/2 inch piston/sleeve assy, and I can't bore the sleeves to 3-3/4 as they are tapered on the water jacket side.

Upon disassembly I found a ton of things wrong, and it's getting worse. Grade 2 bolts on the rods, some bolts in backwards hammered into place, etc. Originally they said it was running and just that the injection pump was removed to put onto another tractor. (No Pump with the tractor). Yep, Running 20 years ago?

I began disassembly as the pistons were froze in the block, or so I thought. Looks like it has 2 spun rod bearings and they put undersize bearings and cranked the caps tight. What a "Hack Job" !!! Wouldn't budge a bit.

So, now I completely removed the crank only to find a spun bearing in the block (#2 Bearing) and that #1 bearing hammered extremely wide.

#2 Cap looks extremely bad but block only about .003 to .004 spun out. I believe we can line bore block but need to find a cap, and 3 rods and a new crank (Spun #5 and #6 journals to .050").

Been told that I may as well get a good shortblock from a Super 88 or 880, or at the least put a newer crankshaft in this old block.

If I put money into this tractor it isn't a problem as I will keep it. I need a little tractor like this around the farm. Anyone have any ideas where to find a good shortblock or have opinions what to do.???

I figure my options are as follows: #1- Save the block, use the 3-1/2 sleeves, rebuilt older crank and 3 rods. #2- Save block, updated newer crank, 6 updated rods, sleeve kit, etc. #3-Get another S88/880 shortblock assy and rebuild that. #4- Buy a good used running shortblock. #5-Buy a rebuilt shortblock. Each time it gets more expensive.

My shop, I can do most all the work except turning a crank or line boring a block.

Input?

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cmccoy7

02-12-2008 06:23:17




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 Re: Good Deal Going Bad,... FAST ! in reply to Ken COWBOY Winiarski, 02-11-2008 17:14:26  
Don't forget e-bay. I have found many great parts off there and many good deals. I bought my 770 block on e-bay for $125.00 I turned around and sold the crank it came with for $65.00 So I made out pretty good there. There is, I believe an 88 block on there right now. Chris



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Cal Innes

02-12-2008 05:19:27




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 Re: Good Deal Going Bad,... FAST ! in reply to Ken COWBOY Winiarski, 02-11-2008 17:14:26  
Ken, There is a guy in eastern New York state along the NY/Mass border and he has a LOT of Oliver stuff. Call Sid Chaven 518-766-2436. Over in Dover-Foxcroft youcould also try Raymond Harvey... he was an Oliver dealer for many years and has a lot of tractors being parted out. Poor Raymond just died recently, but I understand the family will keep the business going. (207)564-7561 Where in Maine are you? I am in the process of moving to maine, just south of Lincoln. Cal

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Old Ford Mechanic

02-11-2008 20:48:49




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 Re: Good Deal Going Bad,... FAST ! in reply to Ken COWBOY Winiarski, 02-11-2008 17:14:26  
Ken call Larry Harsin in Estherville Iowa at 712-362-2966.He is a Oliver mechanic with a ton of parts like you need to repair your tractor.He is a good honest man to deal with and get advice for your problem.He has been working Oliver's for close to 50 years.He may have all the parts you need.



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Ken COWBOY Winiarski

02-12-2008 03:33:37




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 Re: Good Deal Going Bad,... FAST ! in reply to Old Ford Mechanic, 02-11-2008 20:48:49  
Thanks for that info. Not many Oliver 88/S88/880 up here. Flooded with 77 series only.

Just want the old girl for around here and to show off sometime.

COWBOY in Northern Maine



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MapleSprings

02-12-2008 04:42:47




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 Re: Good Deal Going Bad,... FAST ! in reply to Ken COWBOY Winiarski, 02-12-2008 03:33:37  
You might also check with Don Chandler at Lovell Garage in Lovell, ME.
Don"s dad was an Oliver dealer and Olivers have a special place in his heart, but he keeps most of the older tractors of all colors in western Maine alive and well.



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