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8N and Electronic Ignition

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Joe Bento

11-09-1999 09:01:28




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Howdy!

I just ordered up an electronic ignition kit for my '52 8N. I recently converted the old girl back to her original 6 volt state.

It is my hope that the electronic ignition will help her start up a bit easier at the lower RPM's, and if the ads hold any water, give her a bit more horse power.

What is the collective experience of "the board"? Can I expect to see any additional benefits or detriments?

THANKS!

Joe

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BrianD, new 51 8N owner

11-09-1999 14:59:15




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 Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Joe Bento, 11-09-1999 09:01:28  
is there any info on the web about these electronic ignition systems?? Also, how much do they cost?? Thanks, Brian in Southern Illinois



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Darryl (Mo)

11-09-1999 18:32:08




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 Re: Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to BrianD, new 51 8N owner, 11-09-1999 14:59:15  
Brian,

Go to the column at left and click on 'Parts & Supplies' under the Marketplace category. You'll find electronic ignitions under Genesee Products. Good luck with your new N.

Regards,
Darryl 8N210077 'Wheezer'



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jrmo

11-09-1999 14:06:17




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 Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Joe Bento, 11-09-1999 09:01:28  
Has any one came out with one for front mount yet?



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Henry (NAA114121)

11-09-1999 13:16:22




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 Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Joe Bento, 11-09-1999 09:01:28  
This summer, I put a Genesee electronic ignition and coil in my 12V '54 NAA. I followed the rather simple installation instructions that came with the igniton system. The tractor definately runs smoother and starts easier.

I have never liked setting point gap & dwell on a point type ignition. On the early model cars, you set the points with a thickness gage, tightened them in place, put the distributor cap on and started the engine. If you were lucky, the dwell was correct, otherwise you had to do it all over again. In later years, it was easier to set the dwell when there was an external gap adjustment on the distributor.

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Mike S

11-09-1999 11:37:41




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 Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Joe Bento, 11-09-1999 09:01:28  
Hi. I'm presuming that you have a side mount distributor. Which is much like the one I have on my Jubilee. I bought the electronic ignition from Genessee. It is 6 volt as I wanted to keep my tractor pretty stock. It went in as easy, actually easier, than changing points. Instructions were pretty bullet proof. Tractor starts easier whether hot or cold. As for more horsepower, I doubt it, it doesn't soup up the engine. All I know is that I can idle it down to 300 or so and it keeps right on ticking. They use a Pertronix igniter and I have one in my 66 289 Mustang and it is a quality unit. They also are great on giving advice via email.

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Claus

11-09-1999 12:10:48




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 Re: Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Mike S, 11-09-1999 11:37:41  
I doubt, that you will see much difference, compared to a well tuned engine. The electronic ignition does have benefits. They save on points and usually will not eat coils, since there is no time when the coil primary stays saturated as with closed points when the engine stops. There usually is no degradation over time with the spark as you would have when the points pit changing dwell.
Happy Motoring
Claus

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Nolan

11-09-1999 11:30:29




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 Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Joe Bento, 11-09-1999 09:01:28  
There was a test article an issue or two ago in the N-newsletter. The author said he definately got better starting and a smoother running engine out of the deal. He didn't know if he'd gotten any more power out of the engine for lack of a dyno. But a better running engine is almost always a more powerful engine.

I have done/seen electronic ignition conversions in many vehicles over the years. Without fail, when done properly, the results were superior to the points ignition.

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Dave (WI)

11-09-1999 10:30:09




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 Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Joe Bento, 11-09-1999 09:01:28  
Joe, I'm also interested in the electronic ignition for my 51 8N, but I've hesitated due to the cost vs benefits. Let us all know how the installation goes, and then how your 8N runs with the new electronic ignition. Thanks, Dave



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EricG.NH

11-09-1999 10:05:49




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 Re: 8N and Electronic Ignition in reply to Joe Bento, 11-09-1999 09:01:28  
I have no experience with these 6V electronic ignitions. The big print giveth a promise of more horsepower, easier starts, etc., however the small print taketh away. Last I read, the 6V systems are only guaranteed to operate at a voltage of 4.5V or higher. Under starting conditions, where the current draw from the battery is high, it could easily drop below this. This could also mean no starts with a weak or slightly undercharged battery, where a stock ignition might start it up just fine. Again, this is just a concern that I have. I have not used these systems nor do I have any "hands on" experience with them. Just my 2 cents or less,
Eric

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